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To tell the teacher that dd won't be doing the detention ?

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Wibblywobblyfoo · 06/10/2017 20:15

Dd came home from school tonight saying that she has been given an after school detention, to be done on monday, for missing a bit of homework that was meant to be handed in today. She went to her lesson and they were all asked for their homework. She told the teacher there was none and the teacher logged onto the online homework portal and showed them the set work, that she had set at 9.30pm last night!
Dd is 14 and was in bed at 9.30 last night. We also have a no computers after 8.30 pm for them all during the week.
Is setting the work that late reasonable?

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ASauvignonADay · 06/10/2017 22:16

Seems pretty far fetched that a teacher would set homework at 9:30pm and expect it in the following day. Obviously the OP wouldn’t be unreasonable if it was, but I doubt it..

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 06/10/2017 22:17

No Twinset - that's not the culture drilled into these kids. Schools thT havecteachers set homework in class give them planners to write itvin or at least tell them to make a note in a notebook so they don't forget. Schools that use online portals drill it into the kids - all homework is online. Check the portal.

Fair enough - I post it on our VLE and they write it in their planners . I can see though that if they don't use planners that this wouldn't work.

JMKid · 06/10/2017 22:19

I will get kids to put homework in their planners then put online. Not always straight away though as lessons take over. I don't believe for one second any teacher would give students 1 night without any warning at all.

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 06/10/2017 22:22

I am human so on the odd occasion I have forgotten to post a homework online - but they use planners.

If I know I have messed up I wouldn't set the detention though

AlexanderHamilton · 06/10/2017 22:29

Likewise twinsets theckids are human too & might forget something only mentioned in class.

I think the system you describe is fair enough, the portal is a back up. St many schools though it's all they have. Ds's previous school every kid had an iPad. Their planner was the online app linked to the portal. I can name several instances of homework being forgotten to be put on the portal or put on very late.

He's now at a traditional paper planner school. He has organisation diffulties so the TA makes sure he's got everything written down.

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 06/10/2017 22:33

Likewise twinsets theckids are human too & might forget something only mentioned in class

I had assumed wrongly that they had planners. It is also rare to set a homework that is due in the following day.

Maelstrop · 06/10/2017 22:36

Totally unreasonable and I say that a a teacher. Kids cannot be expected to complete a hmwk set at 9.30pm for the next day. My lot always get minimum 2 days, usually more. I'd email the head of department to complain. It's unreasonable. My team are told to set hmwk with as much notice as possible.

youarenotkiddingme · 06/10/2017 22:37

That's the thing though Tw1n. IME most teachers are reasonable and know which students do and don't do homework and accept mistakes, accidently missed or forgotten homework. Most teachers realise pupils are as human as they are.

But there's always the odd one who gives a punishment because what they wanted wasn't met. They don't allow for mistakes or accept explanations - however reasonable.

For example ds maths teacher is extremely strict. She doesn't allow for any work lower than the standard she thinks the student can attain. She gives detentions before school at 8am rather than apply after school. She decided ds hadn't completed his homework to her standard. She said he had to do before school and I said he can't because his transport doesn't get him to school until 8.30. She said that wasn't good enough. So I offered for her to ring LA and ask them to rearrange his taxi because she set homework that she said wasn't of a high enough standard and he should use a reader (which he gets for exams) instead of differentiating the work in line with his EHCP.

She doesn't like me much now either

AlexanderHamilton · 06/10/2017 22:37

Thankfully at ds's new school it is indeed rare. My sister in law however had to go into her dd's school to complain when one night her Dd was set 3 pieces of overnight homework on a night she had swim training.

MammaTJ · 06/10/2017 22:39

No way would my DC be doing homework set at that time of night, even up to year 11. They have to have chill time and this sets them up for having to check constantly, in case they have more work set, which cannot be good for their mental health/family life/basic relaxation.

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Wibblywobblyfoo · 06/10/2017 22:40

I'm shocked that so many places don't have next day homework. D's who is 11 gets it at least 2 times a week. But his school also have a 30 minute policy. If you do it for 30 you stop whether it is completed or not.

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srise2017 · 06/10/2017 22:41

I think you need clarification from the teacher. Send them an email; I find it very hard to believe that the teacher would have only put the homework on at 9.30pm..

GabsAlot · 06/10/2017 22:47

it want said in class obviouly because apart from two kids noone knew

mayb those two ar allowed online late but thats not op' rules so was impossible for her dd to know about it

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 06/10/2017 22:55

If you do it for 30 you stop whether it is completed or not

even at GCSE?

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Wibblywobblyfoo · 06/10/2017 22:57

twin he's in year 6. I was just meaning that it's normal to have next day homework.

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Tw1nsetAndPearls · 06/10/2017 22:58

But there's always the odd one who gives a punishment because what they wanted wasn't met. They don't allow for mistakes or accept explanations - however reasonable.

To be honest that is me. However I don't set homework for the next day and as far as I can I make sure everyone has homework recorded in their planner. When you deal with teenagers you have to be black and white. Because I am that black and white most of my homework comes in and it is too standard. I teach hundreds of students each week and collect hundreds of pieces of homework and I set a handful of detentions each week, sometimes not even that.

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 06/10/2017 22:59

Maybe I would be a bit less hardcore if I was a primary school teacher . Actually if I was a primary school teacher I would be permanently stressed and probably a nightmare - I don't know how they do it

G1raffe · 06/10/2017 23:00

Wow in year 6?! So not even in secondary. That's really harsh.

G1raffe · 06/10/2017 23:02

Our year 6s have maths/english home work set wed for following wed, Friday spellings for following Friday. If they dont do it they lose a few minutes of lunch and thats it!

ToffeeCaramel · 06/10/2017 23:03

I don't think the op was about the son in year 6. That was a dd.

roundaboutthetown · 06/10/2017 23:04

You wouldn't believe the number of parents who phone up to say they don't think their child should have to do a detention, because it's unfair/a mistake, then find out their child's version of the reason for the detention is a lot of bollocks and not what the detention was about at all. Far better to ask for clarification as to what the detention is for, not assume the teacher has a screw loose. Far better still to get your child to grow up and question it herself with the teacher concerned if she thinks it doesn't make sense - it is her detention, after all, not her parent's.... And frankly, if the whole class bar two people is doing this detention, it sounds more like a catch up lesson than a detention, anyway. Very dedicated on the teacher's part to take an entire class of kids for an extra lesson after school!!!...

G1raffe · 06/10/2017 23:09

Seriously round!? I'm an ex teacher and unless it was billed as a catch up lesson after school to which my child was invited then it's not at all the same.

Jaxhog · 06/10/2017 23:09

Check with the Teacher first, but if as your DD says then this is unreasonable.

If DD has to do the detention, suggest she writes a short essay on the importance of planning and communication (by Teachers).

N0tNowBernard · 06/10/2017 23:09

FFS MAYBE AN OWL FLEW IN DD WINDOW AND DELIVERED IT ON A GOLD PLATED SCROLL!

RavingRoo · 06/10/2017 23:12

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