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Parents who think rules don't apply to them

306 replies

mintinbox · 06/10/2017 15:26

Just went to the harvest festival assembly at primary school where my kid was performing. The whole school was.

Announcement at the beginning no photographs or filming please turn your phone off.

Smug bitch in the second row filming the whole thing on her phone. A woman in front of her was caught taking a photograph and told not to by a member of staff (not made to delete it though) and said "oh I didn't know" of course you knew.

I have reasons for my child to be on social media with her school name attached and I'm sure I'm not the only one in the country who feels this way either.

Of course I didn't say anything to the filming mother as my child could be in a class with hers for years and so frictions are best avoided

I'm absolutely raging though.

Would i be ur to not allow my child to ever participate in school assembly's plays or anything like this again because of some selfish ignorant twat?

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JacquesHammer · 06/10/2017 16:19

others are so selfish and ridiculous they want to ban ^everything"

Yeah. Damn those selfish parents who are trying to keep their kids life as normal as possible despite being in terrible situations. I had a child involved a couple of years ago who was in a potentially life threatening situation. That isn't hyperbole. That's fact. How selfish for their parents to want them to take part in school activities whilst minimising risk

HazelBite · 06/10/2017 16:19

There are very real reasons why my GC's should not be filmed, photographed and inadvertently appear on social media.
Why should someones wish to film or photograph their dc put at real risk the safety of others.

myrtleWilson · 06/10/2017 16:20

Am astonished at some of the replies. Yes people may be filming for granny or Great Aunt Susie but the school has no ability to police what happens to that film so the most straightforward approach is no filming. OP - YANBU- but your school is in not enforcing their own rules.

How on earth could anyone bear to have it on one's conscience that by filming and put said film on soc/med that could put another child in danger. Beggars belief it really does

JacquesHammer · 06/10/2017 16:20

What I do for every family is take a photo of every child in Costume on stage so everyone has a photo of their child only.

Allergictoironing · 06/10/2017 16:21

Cavoli of course there were photos, way back to Victorian times. But they weren't in digital format, and there wasn't anywhere to upload them to anyway. So you ordered however many you wanted & distributed them to family/showed them off to visitors rather than spread them all over the internet where anyone could see them.

C8H10N4O2 · 06/10/2017 16:21

no one cares about other peoples children!

That is apparent when parents post pictures of other people's children on social media without consent.

This is precisely why a number of the local schools have had to move from 'do not post the pictures on social media' to 'no pictures at all'.

Pigflewpast · 06/10/2017 16:21

Of course, years ago 1 parent working abroad was missing most of his kids life. Nowadays they could see the video, but no, others are so selfish and ridiculous they want to ban ^everything", which is not realistic anyway.
Yes it's the people whose child could be in danger if their whereabouts are revealed who are selfish and ridiculous, not the parents who want to video their kids despite the danger to the other child!!!!!

CavoliRiscaldati · 06/10/2017 16:22

A sick family member in hospital watching a private video of their child in a play is not putting anyone in danger JacquesHammer Hmm

myrtleWilson · 06/10/2017 16:22

But cavoli in getting "their" child they could also get another child in shot - and you have no idea what ramifications that may have and yet you have the gall to call others selfish??

FindTheLightSwitchDarren · 06/10/2017 16:23

Hmm it's "selfish" to ban photography at school shows? Eh? So let's see;

Schools don't ban photography, even when there is a genuine reason for a child not to be photographed by perfect strangers (other parents). Some internet unsavvy parent films a show and then plasters it publicly all over social media with the name of the school, when one of the children has, for example, been removed from an abusive parent.

Vs

Parents miss out on a video of a school show.

It's hardly difficult to see which takes priority.

JacquesHammer · 06/10/2017 16:24

A sick family member in hospital watching a private video of their child in a play is not putting anyone in danger

As soon as a performance is on video you cannot control where/who sees it.

Hmm I am completely baffled as to why you can't understand that simple fact.

DeadGood · 06/10/2017 16:24

No, I think you win in the "riled up" stakes OP.

"Smug bitch"
"I'm absolutely raging"
"Selfish ignorant twat"
"Too arrogant" (do people even sue he word arrogant these days? Sounds like something Aunt Lydia would say)

This isn't about "my right" to photograph other people's kids. I tend not to, for the reasons you outline.

You on the other hand seem more interested in being right, and enjoying your righteous indignation, than actually trying to understand the problem and trying to fix it.

ComputerUserNotTrained · 06/10/2017 16:25

People who insist on making crappy recordings of any performance, be that their child's nativity party or Bon chuffing Jovi in concert, are a pain in the arse.

It's antisocial and disrespectful.

BlueSapp · 06/10/2017 16:25

If someone posts and image of your child on the internet without your permission you can legaly have iot removed. Just takes a phonecall to the police.

Our school lets people take phots on the understanding it is not shared on the internet, if someone complains then there will be a full ban, has worked so far.

myrtleWilson · 06/10/2017 16:25

And pray tell Cavoli how on earth is the school supposed to monitor filming - ask each parent to stay behind to view films to check that all okay, attend said hospital visit to make sure film is only shown to sick family member, then watch as film is deleted. Not really practical is it so the school has no idea that when Cavoli is filming CavJr they're not also picking up a vulnerable child. Equally they have no ability to ensure CavJr's play isn't uploaded to FB...

mintinbox · 06/10/2017 16:26

Dead strange more like

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CavoliRiscaldati · 06/10/2017 16:26

Not everybody posts their life on social media.

If someone really wants to video something, they will buy that sort of things and ignore the form the signed agreeing not to publish anything on social media.

You are just penalising the wrong parents, who have agreed to the same rules and would respect them.

mintinbox · 06/10/2017 16:26

In that I can't be arsed to go up and retread your post several times copy and paste etc like you could. How odd.

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myrtleWilson · 06/10/2017 16:27

But the point about social media blue is that you can't always lock down posts/photos. You may not know that parent A has shared video with Great Aunt Susie who has posted it to her FB page..

JacquesHammer · 06/10/2017 16:28

If you extrapolate "keeping a child safe" to "I'm being penalised" you are ridiculously entitled.

CavoliRiscaldati · 06/10/2017 16:28

how on earth is the school supposed to monitor filming

In my school, we have to sign forms about social media and diffusing any material recorded or sent to us by school or teachers.

LittleBooInABox · 06/10/2017 16:29

Then you should have said something.

Our school allows photos and videos but it can't be shared on social media. Just for personal use.

Pengggwn · 06/10/2017 16:29

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C8H10N4O2 · 06/10/2017 16:31

You on the other hand seem more interested in being right, and enjoying your righteous indignation, than actually trying to understand the problem and trying to fix it.

Well if I'd watched someone breaking rules in a way which could cause harm to my child I'd be pretty hacked off. As the parent of a child who shouldn't be filmed the OP understands the problem very well.

The school has 'fixed' the problem by banning filming but parents who think that rules don't apply to them ignore it. Or are you proposing schools frisk parents and remove all devices as they enter the room? I can't think what else the school or OP can do frankly.

Witsender · 06/10/2017 16:33

If you are the type of idiot parent that ignores the feelings of others and films despite requests otherwise, how can you be trusted not to put them on social media? It is way easier for the school to police what happens in their grounds than what parents do with the footage later. It isn't the filming that is new, it is the social media and some peoples' over use of it.

A few local schools have taken to stating that the children of repeat offenders cannot participate in events etc. Apparently this is unfair to those children, according to the parents (presumably like those on here) who think that instead those whose identity needs to be protected should be kept out instead.

Why is you/your granny watching a grainy nativity more important than a child getting to participate, and keep safe at the same time? Hugely selfish.

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