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Parents who think rules don't apply to them

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mintinbox · 06/10/2017 15:26

Just went to the harvest festival assembly at primary school where my kid was performing. The whole school was.

Announcement at the beginning no photographs or filming please turn your phone off.

Smug bitch in the second row filming the whole thing on her phone. A woman in front of her was caught taking a photograph and told not to by a member of staff (not made to delete it though) and said "oh I didn't know" of course you knew.

I have reasons for my child to be on social media with her school name attached and I'm sure I'm not the only one in the country who feels this way either.

Of course I didn't say anything to the filming mother as my child could be in a class with hers for years and so frictions are best avoided

I'm absolutely raging though.

Would i be ur to not allow my child to ever participate in school assembly's plays or anything like this again because of some selfish ignorant twat?

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ChinaRose · 06/10/2017 15:59

Every parent I know films and take photos at these things (as I will). I see loads on Facebook too. A family member (social worker) allows no photos to be taken of her son (she has removed kids from their parents and believes people may want to harm them. I genuinely feel sorry for the kid. No one knows what he looks like. He's none existent on the dad's fb. He probably stands our like a sore thumb at school too because she's forbidden him from any "risky" activity.

PyongyangKipperbang · 06/10/2017 16:00

Vulnerable children have been found by family that they have been removed from (either by care proceedings or with a parent fleeing an abusive relationship). There are very very real risks to these children and their parents, it isnt a stupid rule at all.

The sort of person who would ignore a "do not film/photograph" rule in front of the head teacher, isnt likely to be concerned about sharing the pictures on social media when in their own home are they?

The people staying away from the performances should be the fuckwits who cheerfully put vulnerable children in danger by ignoring the rules, not the poor kids who are at risk.

Nousernameforme · 06/10/2017 16:00

I don't see why people must film and photograph everything anyway take a pic of your own child in their costume at the end. Then actually watch the show rather than a filmed version of it later.

LittleLionMansMummy · 06/10/2017 16:01

Exactly my point Pyongyang.

blueberrypie0112 · 06/10/2017 16:03

Sometimes they film it for grandparents (or even the other parent) who can’t come and wish they were there

SabineUndine · 06/10/2017 16:05

Deadgood it’s the school’s gaff, their rules. I agree with the OP - I don’t see why everyone’s children should be put at risk just because ONE woman wants to film her little precious. She’s probably uploaded it to Facebook by now, too.

Mumto2girls82 · 06/10/2017 16:06

Glitter lips

If the rules say no filming then they should follow rules. Is this not the problem with some of the things being discussed on the should kids talk teachers like this? What kind of message does it send to their children?

LewisThere · 06/10/2017 16:09

China you know what, NOT all children are plastered on their parents FB page. Mines certainly aren't and never have been.

And seeing the laws that are coming our way giving the right for young adults to have their details as children deleted from social media. Inwouod gather that, actually, qu a te a few adults aren't happy about what has been posted about them as children either.

Not being on FB doesn't mean you dint exist....

JacquesHammer · 06/10/2017 16:09

If my children are taking part I will record it. If you don't like it pull your child out!!!!!!! Why shouldn't parents capture moments of their children? If it makes me "one of those parents' or a 'precious parent" then I couldn't care less. Our school allows filming and asks not for it to be put on social media. Parents I know abide by those rules which I think is fair. Some will blur the other children out of the photos or some will ask if parents mind the photo including their child is put up on FB etc

I had a parent like you who filmed despite being requested not to (and there were very VERY serious child protection issues at plaza).

Their child is no longer permitted to be involved in my drama group. Parent kicked up a fuss but the head backed us to the hilt.

Fluffypinkpyjamas · 06/10/2017 16:09

Deadgood the only one frothing and arrogant here is YOU, embarrassingly so.

JacquesHammer · 06/10/2017 16:09
  • play. Not plaza
CavoliRiscaldati · 06/10/2017 16:10

what a horrible rule.
some parents cannot attend, so one of them take photos or possible videos to show them, or to show the grand -parents. Keeping a private record does not mean sharing on social media.

Of course some children must be protected, but it's an unreasonable and unpractical way to do it to ban everything. It's very new to have to ban everything, so whole families are missing out. It will just mean people will start to use less obvious recording material - nowadays it's not difficult!.
Banning and penalising ALL parents is not reasonable, sorry.

PyongyangKipperbang · 06/10/2017 16:10

China You honestly think that not having his photo on his dads FB page makes him more worthy of sympathy than the fact that people may want to harm him in revenge for his mothers (legitimate, work based) actions?

Fuck me, that is a whole new level of stupid.

Pigflewpast · 06/10/2017 16:10

If my children are taking part I will record it. If you don't like it pull your child out!!!!!!! Why shouldn't parents capture moments of their children? If it makes me "one of those parents' or a 'precious parent" then I couldn't care less well aren't you lovely. OP has said she has a very good reason for her child's school to be kept quiet, other posters have given very good reasons why children need to be "hidden" on social media, there are, occasionally, life threatening reasons for this, but you think your recording of your child is more important. It's quite scary your sense of entitlement.

JacquesHammer · 06/10/2017 16:10

If my children are taking part I will record it

And you know what? You might remember stuff better if you didn't faff about trying to film stuff and just watched your kid

LewisThere · 06/10/2017 16:10

The film or the photos taken in those circumstances are usuallly crap though. So what's the point?
What about just enjoying the moment?

It's like people who spend the whole concert trying to film it rather than enjoying it. Why spend £1000 and not enjoy the event?

Coloursthatweremyjoy · 06/10/2017 16:11

Why would anyone want to view their child's big moment on stage down the lens of a camera phone anyway? The footage is always crap as well.

China Rose - my children have always been non existent on Facebook. Come to think of it I've personally never had an account...pretty sure the relevant people know what we look like.

Our schools have a photo line up of all the different groups after the show, everyone gets their photo. I've got several, can't remember the last time I looked at them tbh. I still remember the shows.

Fluffypinkpyjamas · 06/10/2017 16:12

Every parent I know films and take photos at these things (as I will). I see loads on Facebook too. A family member (social worker) allows no photos to be taken of her son (she has removed kids from their parents and believes people may want to harm them. I genuinely feel sorry for the kid. No one knows what he looks like. He's none existent on the dad's fb. He probably stands our like a sore thumb at school too because she's forbidden him from any "risky" activity

Just when you thought you'd heard it all... Grin

FindTheLightSwitchDarren · 06/10/2017 16:12

Yanbu. Some of the posts on here are frankly disgusting. "I'm alright jack. If you don't want me to film your child, take them out of the show", ugh.

The problem with allowing photography, but banning posting them on social media is that some parents will just go ahead and post on fb as they think, "why shouldn't I? Pointless rule. I'm alright jack" and then if they get found out say, "oh I didn't know".

In theory, by banning filming in the first place, there is no chance of parents posting online later. It's obvious when someone is filming or taking pictures at the actual performance. Whereas, if filming / photography is allowed, but social media is banned, parents could easily post on social media and the school would never know. The problem is that the op's dc school hasn't enforced the ban they've imposed, which does make it seem pointless.

I don't get why photographs and videos are so vital to parents. If it isn't allowed by the school, then what's wrong with just going and watching your child instead of waving a phone around? I have no family nearby, so I'm sure they'd love to see a video of dc in their school play, but if the school says they don't allow it, it isn't going to kill me to follow the rules.

Allergictoironing · 06/10/2017 16:12

If it's so very important that parents film their kids, what the feck did they do before FB and camera phones existed? Yes it's nice to have a record of the memories but in the past there would be the "official" photos of the event (if you were lucky) in hard copy & that would be that.

To those who say anyone who doesn't want their children to be filmed they should not permit them to take part, I will reverse this and say if anyone insists they should be able to film their kids in anything they do then they are the ones who should remove their children.

PerfumeIsAMessage · 06/10/2017 16:14

The ignorance on this thread is appalling.

Unless it's goadyfucker awayday today. Which of course, is always a possibility.

OP, YANBU.

FindTheLightSwitchDarren · 06/10/2017 16:14

I don't get why photographs and videos are so vital to parents.

Sorry - I mean specifically photos and videos of school perfrormances where you end up with a video / photo of about 20 children who you don't even know.

CavoliRiscaldati · 06/10/2017 16:17

If it's so very important that parents film their kids, what the feck did they do before FB and camera phones existed?

I am not sure, but there are even photos of my great-grand parents at school! so it's not really a modern issue.

Why on earth should children be removed because parents want to keep up with the tradition (for a start), and more importantly benefit from modern technology allowing someone who is away, or sick to see their kids.

Of course, years ago 1 parent working abroad was missing most of his kids life. Nowadays they could see the video, but no, others are so selfish and ridiculous they want to ban ^everything", which is not realistic anyway.

blueberrypie0112 · 06/10/2017 16:17

Video cameras exist way before phone cameras and FB. Social media is a new thing though

CavoliRiscaldati · 06/10/2017 16:18

pecifically photos and videos of school perfrormances where you end up with a video / photo of about 20 children who you don't even know.

that's the point.. parents are trying to get THEIR child, they are not interested in the whole group. no one cares about other peoples children!

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