Theresa Mays speech

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Carry on up the kiber? The dinner scene

Exactly that limitedperiodonly. I have no idea what her vision is, where these people are going, what they want. They pop up with the occasional thing that is not obviously connected to the last thing they did - except 'austerity' - and it's rarely well thought through, costed, evidenced, tested. I really don't know what she's planning about anything.

But I think the saddest thing is to see all her colleagues leaving her out there exposed and floundering like a winged goose on the shore because there's no one of them with the ability to put her out of her misery. They are a bunch of gutless and planless shits.

I thought her hair and make-up looked nice.

I thought her hair and make-up looked nice

Isn't it weird CathyMedici? When she first took to the stage I noticed that the top of her hair was a bit skew-whiff. I thought that was going to be a problem but she would overcome it. Obviously I'm no political commentator

Limited - what did you think of her make-up?

Cathy, on a shallow note, I agree, I liked her hair and makeup. Her dress and shoes were nice too, and her Frida Kahlo bracelet was excellent.

I thought her make up was good Cathy. I didn't like her dress and routinely hate her shoes. As they are her signature statement I feel okay about passing judgement.

She is a woman without any substance. An empty vessel. The best the Tories could come up with.

It was leaked the night before the speech that some of it was lifted from The West Wing and yet she went ahead with that section anyway. Part of being a good and effective leader is having decent people around you. Another fail.

She continually speaks about her important Brexit negotiations and hard work she's doing but the EU leaders beg to differ.

The last election was the culmination of a pissing contest between her, JC, and Nicola Sturgeon. It has backfired somewhat.

“What issues do you think he’s run away from, Piglet?

Issues of anti-semitism for starters.”

I know that’s what the Tory press want us to believe, but it isn’t true.

He’s condemned anti-Semitism repeatedly.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/26/jeremy-corbyn-labour-is-not-a-nasty-party-brighton-conference

TM & the Tories were voted back in with an increased vote share - even though the campaign was the worst in living memory & JC & Labour were promising the moon on a stick

1 - Increased vote share means nothing in a FPTP system.
2 - Seats matter.
3 - The Tories would not be in government today without the £1 billion bribe to the DUP (and if you think the nasty party is the last word in nastiness on the political scene, think again).
4 - I scratch my head wondering how you can frame the GE2017 disaster as some sort of victory for the Tories.
5 - TM herself cried as her political career fell down around her ankles on election night.

He’s condemned anti-Semitism repeatedly.

Yet it's still happening

I scratch my head wondering how you can frame the GE2017 disaster as some sort of victory for the Tories.

Well she still has the keys to no10.

Seats do indeed matter. Labour didn't win enough despite their opponent.

Corbyn is at the head of a personality cult. He could do a lot to expel the extremists in his party.

The substantive issue here - and the one that matters most in the medium- to long-term - is that barely anyone under 45 votes Tory. This means that they can ‘squeak’ election wins for now, but their future share of the vote is certain to plummet.

When Brexit turns out to be an unmitigated disaster, the British public will not remember the Tory government fondly, and will vote accordingly.

Despite their opponent, the Tories didn't manage to win enough seats either...

The substantive issue here - and the one that matters most in the medium- to long-term - is that barely anyone under 45 votes Tory. This means that they can ‘squeak’ election wins for now, but their future share of the vote is certain to plummet

So in the medium to long term everyone is going to remain forever more under the age of 45 years old - bloody fabulous

When Brexit turns out to be an unmitigated disaster, the British public will not remember the Tory government fondly, and will vote accordingly

I think if Labour do win next time it will be short and not sweet, by the time their 5 years is up a lot of younger voters will have their eyes well and truly opened and will vote accordingly.

time4 don’t be obtuse - voters don’t suddenly turn 45 and start voting Tory.

Is there some sort of 'Project Fear' afoot, featuring Jeremy Corbyn and Labour? He comes across as a right bunny boiler on some posts...

4 - I scratch my head wondering how you can frame the GE2017 disaster as some sort of victory for the Tories.

Scratch no more math* -* it’s really very simple!

It was a victory because.... they won. Labour & all the other parties did not get as many votes, as much of the vote share, or as many seats.

I’m scratching my head wondering how you can frame them being in govt as some sort of defeat tbh.

No one has any idea of the way vote and age are related. All the god given statements spouted as fact are pure extrapolation from small scale polls.

I’m scratching my head wondering how you can frame them being in govt as some sort of defeat tbh

May called an election she didn't vlto call as she thought she'd be able o massively increase her majority. When she called it, the discussion was around whether they'd achieve a three figure majority or in the 80s or 90s. Through sheer ineptitude they utterly, utterly blew it to such an extent that they lost their workable majority, can't implement anything in their manifesto and are now dancing to the tune of the cunts in the DUP who they had to bung a massive bribe to. They're now mired in back biting and May can't control her front bench, let alone govern effectively.

Well said, Boys.

The only thing more depressing than the shambolic government is the fact that a good proportion of the British public seem so disinterested in politics that they neither notice nor care what they do.

But they didn't win
The Tories had a working majority of 17 seats until 8 June 2017. No party won an outright majority.

They are in government now only thanks to a basket of deplorables whom they bribed to provide support in the HoC.

The election was a drubbing for Theresa May. Calling it was an astonishing miscalculation. She had sought a stronger mandate for the Brexit negotiations. She got her arse handed to her on a plate instead.

The Tories lost 13 seats while gaining 5.5% of the votes over the previous election.
Labour gained 30 seats while gaining 9.9% of the votes over the last election.

You can call it a win if facing facts isn't your forte.

What would you call it then Math if not a win?
Obviously Labour won seats and Conservatives lost seats but, you certainly can’t call it a Labour win otherwise we would have a different PM.

I would call it a disaster, as did Theresa May on election night.

“We didn’t see the result coming,” she said in an interview marking her year in office. “When the result came through, it was a complete shock.

“It took a few minutes for it to sort of sink in, what that was telling me. My husband gave me a hug.”

Mrs May, who looked strained when she went to see the Queen on June 9, said it was “distressing” to see good colleagues losing their seats.

Admitting she knew the campaign “wasn’t going perfectly”, the Prime Minister said she did not change approach because she still expected a “better” result. When asked if she was devastated enough to cry, Mrs May replied: “Yes, a little tear ... at that moment.”

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-may-i-shed-a-little-tear-when-exit-poll-emerged-on-election-night-a3587041.html

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Not a happy camper at the election count in Maidenhead.

Not securing even a working majority didn't stop her from scuttling off to the Palace and telling porkies to Her Maj about the support of the DUP. I understand HMQ was miffed at this when she realised several weeks later that there was in fact no agreement in place at the time she had been asked to sign off on a minority government...

The Tories lost 13 seats while gaining 5.5% of the votes over the previous election.

Please could someone explain this? How could the Tories have gained a percentage of votes than the last election but still lose seats? Sorry - I'm a bit confused