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AIBU to be pissed off with hearing this phrase from DH?

261 replies

KitKat1985 · 30/09/2017 09:53

'If you want me to do something, just tell me'.

Basically this phrase means to me that he doesn't ever take the initiative to plan or think about what needs doing and that I'm apparently in charge of everything around the house and he'll do something if I 'delegate' it to him but otherwise won't think to do it. Why do I always have to be the one that thinks about what needs doing domestically? Like what cleaning needs doing, or that we're about to run out of bread, or that we need to buy a present for a party at the weekend. Why can't he ever work out for himself that if the laundry bin is full that probably means we need to put some laundry on without me having to specifically point it out? Or that it will never occur to him to hoover or clean anything unless I've specifically asked him to do it? He's 36 and not an idiot FFS. Surely he can take some responsibility for thinking sometimes about what needs to be done sometimes without me having to specifically ask?

AIBU? I know I'm lucky that he will do stuff if I ask him to do it which is better than some men, but I just find it so irksome that it's never off his own back. He always has to be asked to do something.

OP posts:
Sallystyle · 02/10/2017 18:09

I haven't read the full thread, but reading a handful of replies has made me realise that I am actually the 'man' in this situation. Since I started working and dh being at home we have fell into the role where he is taking the mental load when it comes to housework and children stuff.

It makes sense that he does most of the cooking and housework when I am at work but on my days off we have fell into the pattern of him still cooking and washing up and doing the majority of the housework. It is him who thinks about what needs doing etc more than I ever do.

He doesn't moan and due to the reasons why he isn't working right now it does help him feel useful (its something he struggles with) but reading this I got the attack of the guilts. I do housework of course and I care for the children but it is him who has the mental load and that needs to change to make things fairer.

Crummyfunnymummy · 02/10/2017 20:29

Ugh, same here!!! This whole "if you ask me..." or the latest I get "if you want the house kept to your high standards then that's up to you. I don't have the same standards!" Huh! Are clean clothes high standards? Changing the sheets once a week a high standard?! How about buying the weekly shop? Or putting it away!! Or remembering all the birthdays and new babies and getting a Mother's Day card for his mother (even though my own mother had recently passed away!). Booking all the holidays? Dealing with all the tradespeople? I dread to think how desperate things would have to be for my DH to take action. Literally no clean pants left in the house??!
And while I'm ranting, I hate it when people say "my DH helps/doesn't help around the house" It's half his house, half his mess, half his children.....it's not helping!!!!! I could never imagine saying I helped my DH around the house. Society has it that women do stuff around the house and men help with stuff round the house. It's not helping - It's just doing! And like if someone has a DH who does "help" they're supposed to be grateful! I work full-time, same as my DH. Why should I be grateful if my DH does something? Is anyone grateful that I clean, cook, fold, tidy etc? Nope.

Ranty-ranty-rant-rant!!!!! Angry

BugsBunny14 · 02/10/2017 22:53

Is your husband my husband OP? I have exactly the same issue but at least after this thread it makes me feel I’m not the only one struggling with this.
Yes it’s can be extremely challenging and frustrating and your YANBU!

houghtonk76 · 03/10/2017 00:09

Annoyingly, my bag was nicked at a station on way home from work while posting my earlier reply. Gutted. And slightly over phone call queues to report cards missing, etc. due to bloomin airline going bust thing! More poo to sort out 😦

SunshineLollipopsRainbows25 · 03/10/2017 06:54

when DP had a previous job and had a day off in the week on my way to get DD1 from school after work I'd ask DP to put a quick dinner in for her.. just fish fingers, chips and beans... I'd get 3 different calls just for this one task.

  1. ring ring... what should i cook and when do you want it putting on.
  1. ring ring, ring ring... what temperature does it go on?
  1. ring ring, ring ring, RING... how do I know when it's cooked?

this was a common occurrence every week until I just gave up! it's more effort mansplaining it all and listening to him getting stressed over a fish finger than just do it myself.

Minxmumma · 03/10/2017 07:20

Yanbu. My Dh did this for a while. My response was if you are not adult enough to realise there are chores that need doing, then you are not adult enough to choose your own food, clothes, manage your money etc. I treated him like one of the kids for a couple of days until he got the idea.

Never have to ask anymore.

Cantthinkofagood1 · 03/10/2017 07:41

This just popped up on my fb. Thought it was quite apt! Helps if you've watched moana.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=NoGmvaBqu_M

KatharinaRosalie · 03/10/2017 08:51

DH tried it once. 'OK my turn to cook, sure - what shall I cook? Where is the grater? Do we have any potatoes?'

I sat him down and explained that deciding what to cook and buying/finding the ingredients and locating utensils and figuring out what temperature to use and when it's done - that IS cooking. If he wants to claim he cooks half the time, he needs to figure this all out. It's not a bloody masterchef.

And he did. We share pick-ups and whoever gets the kids, also makes dinner. I have never had a call about how to fry fishfingers.

abbsisspartacus · 03/10/2017 10:26

I still get my ex calling me to ask do the kids like x? They are right fucking next to him and 8/4years old can speak for themselves

Ancientmale · 05/10/2017 10:01

N/C. Ancient in being a few years past free TV licence.

Threads like this set me thinking and I'm posting with my thoughts rather than addressing OP, who I don't think is being unreasonable.

Brief background. My mum died when I was 19 after much illness so was used to Dad doing things around the house.

First marriage, wife telling me our marriage was over, siad, 'You don't need me, you're perfectly able to look after yourself.' As far as she was concerned I was undermining her 'wifely' role.

Then, nearly forty years ago I met someone else, who revealed later I was the first bloke she'd known who didn't expect his tea on the table nor looking after all the time.

My early working years were in a factory, later became a teacher and degrees via the OU. It was only then I started to find support for views that were out of kilter with those around me.

A seminar that stays in my mind started with Oscar Wilde's phrase, “All women become like their mothers. That is their tragedy. No man does, and that is his.” Translated as, mothers take on the caring, nurturing and organising role and men don't.

I get irritated in social settings, when DW mentions something I do, and another woman responds, 'Oh really, you've trained him well', or, 'how did you manage to train him to do that?' There's an assumption I couldn't possibly have thought things through for myself, because training is wife's role.

Another favourite, 'aren't you lucky to have someone like that …'. Crummy's post was spot on.

I don't recall anyone ever telling me how lucky I was to have (OH). Now there's a thought … have any of you ever said to a husband, 'aren't you lucky to have (DW) to do things for you?' For those of you who don't have a partner who thinks doing things in the house are normal, perhaps that notion could be the starting point of a conversation.

And perhaps the following might help as well.

Another thought comes to mind, next time you're introduced to a woman you've not met before, don't ask her what she does, ask her, 'do you have a full time job, or do you go out to work'.

Sixteen plus hours at home doing things is full time work, eight hours in a job isn't.

The same applies to the notion that earning money has a greater value than say, cooking a meal. Though it is a circular argument. He earns money, but if you didn't cook meals, shop he wouldn't be able to work – the different activities have equal value.

This is getting a bit long, so I'll just make a comment to those who feel it's easier to do things yourself. I'm sure most of you can drive, which is a complex skill, but eventually it all comes together and you do it without thinking. Despite being an adult when learning, no-one treated you like a child. Cooking is a complex skill, which needs to be taught, be prepared to put in the time and you will reap your reward. Which is what Katharina said.

Fresh8008 · 05/10/2017 10:21

Its just a subjective thing and men & women have different ways of perceiving it. Women might think its dirty and needs cleaning so either does it or tells someone to do it. Men think its ok and doesn't need cleaning so leave it, or do it (reluctantly) if asked because its less hassle than being in the dog house.

Its just a difference of opinion.

Maireadplastic · 05/10/2017 14:23

That's just not going to wash, Fresh.

Fresh8008 · 05/10/2017 14:29

Just my experience, Maireadplastic.

Maireadplastic · 05/10/2017 14:44

Right.

Maireadplastic · 05/10/2017 14:46

This thread has gone into why people justify things as you just have. It's quite an interesting read.

KatharinaRosalie · 05/10/2017 16:03

next time you're introduced to a woman you've not met before, don't ask her what she does, ask her, 'do you have a full time job, or do you go out to work'.
Sixteen plus hours at home doing things is full time work, eight hours in a job isn't.

Not quite sure I get what you are trying to say here. Those of us who 'go out to work' for 8 hours don't usually have magical house-fairies doing the 'full time job'.

As for cooking (cleaning, laundry etc) - those are essential life skills and I would expect that they are taught to children. So if dating an adult male, most women don't want to be a parent and start teaching how to boil an egg.

Ancientmale · 05/10/2017 16:14

Sorry Katharina, I should've been more specific. I was responding to those posters having husbands who believe because they have a full time job and their wife stays at home, don't need to do anything further at home because they have done enough for the day.

I hope that helps.

Bluelonerose · 05/10/2017 16:17

My dh is the same. Or what else he does that drives me potty is waits for me to get up to do something then "helps" it's not helping Angry

TieGrr · 05/10/2017 16:40

In the supermarket the other day and there was a man shopping with his teen/pre-teen children. Overheard him ring his wife to ask what he should do as there were no mini-Magnums left.

DP would probably do the same thing and that's the kind of mental load stuff that drives me crazy. Either pick up a different type of icecream or go without. Stop making me the decision maker for everything.

wifeofacaveman · 05/10/2017 16:46

Hello....I have NEVER joined or posted a single thing ever....(even facebook) HOWEVER this talk about husbands? Oh my gosh I could NOT resist sharing! I am a very busy mother 15 and 11 year old daughters. Very hectic schedule. If I am ever overwhelmed, frustrated about the MANY details/tasks I am loaded down with...his standard answer: "do you think you are the only woman in America that has all of this to do". I do just about EVERYTHING (he does his laundry and will help around the house....but on his terms/timeframe, so it's not all a loss. He is stuck in the 50's when mothers had nothing else to do but raise children and keep up the household. Back then, kids were not over scheduled and most families had one car! Anyone else feel like this?? It is SO frustrating. Not even worth saying anything when he asks me "what's wrong?""" Grrr!

ErrolTheDragon · 05/10/2017 16:50

"do you think you are the only woman in America that has all of this to do"

Maybe you could respond, no, and you don't suppose you're the only one who is aware its the 21st century either.

ErrolTheDragon · 05/10/2017 16:51

Oh, and welcome to MN, good username!Grin

WhooooAmI24601 · 05/10/2017 16:56

DH's most-used phrase recently is "I was going to do that". If you were, you would have done it. The fact that you didn't proves you had no intention. So he'll leave shit around then act surprised and irritated when I deal with it, all indignant and "I was about to do that". His epitaph will be those words. Sooner rather than later if his shit continues.

wifeofacaveman · 05/10/2017 16:57

Oh my gosh!!! That's the BEST advice! Thank you! I will definitely use that 21st century reply 👍🏻 I'm dying laughing (not "at" everyone) but because I know I can't be the only one married to a caveman!! 😂 I recently spent about 2 hours (seriously) prepping my family's favorite meal to be nice. ALL he had to do was power preheat the oven and put it in for 60 minutes. I come home, it's cold. He preheated oven fine, but when oven reached temperature, instead of turning oven to "bake" he shuts oven off. AFTER I lovingly asked him to make sure he set it to "bake".....and he rolls his eyes at me like "duh I think I can do that". We ate dinner at 10:45 PM 😡

lemonzest123 · 05/10/2017 17:11

Oh god this reminds me of my ex.

Constantly having to ask for his share the most basic chores to be done...so many clothes ruined in the tumble drier that's shouldn't be in there or whites and colours put in together...SO many batches of washing up greasy because he insisted on washing up under a running tap so the soap on the sponge disappeared after 2 seconds (because he didn't like getting wrinkled fingers)...so much shit half arsed hoovering...the response always being that's how I do it. "Do it yourself if you want it done better".

The one that really fucked me off was the fact he:
A) didn't cook
B) was a really fussy eater and most annoyingly
C) would always answer my 5pm text asking "what shall I make for supper?" with "don't mind".

What an absolute mug I was.