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I'm sorry but boarding school at 8...

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TheVanguardSix · 23/09/2017 13:36

I just don't get it.
Not in this day and age.
I don't mean to come across as antagonistic but as I watch DD's best friend prepare to leave next year for boarding school at the age of 8, it just feels sad. It's amazing how the dynamics of their friendship have changed already. And I can't help but assume it has to do with her knowing that she's leaving... preparing to board (she will only come back for Christmas/Easter/Summer hols... not even half-term. Her parents will visit her over half-term).
Don't get me wrong. I'm not against boarding school at all even if it's not in our plans. I get why people send their older kids to boarding school. We know lots of our older DC's friends who started boarding school at 11 and 13. But 8... it just seems so young.
There must be something positive about it. Otherwise, why would people choose to send a young child to boarding school?

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SandyY2K · 24/09/2017 10:54

With the way some parents are, it may be beneficial. Borders become very independent and form great friendships.

I'd never do it it's like absolving your parental duties at that young age.

LazyDailyMailJournos · 24/09/2017 11:11

Roundabout there was a boys school linked to mine (single sex). They also had similar rules about laundry, so it wasn't a gender roles issue (surprisingly!).

HopelesslydevotedtoGu · 24/09/2017 11:55

So I think the situation that Gilly describes, and another poster upthread who talked about a specialist ASD school, are somewhat different - a genuinely specialist school offering an education that simply isn't available elsewhere. I still think that in your shoes dh and I would relocate to live close enough to the school so they could be predominantly day pupils, but I can see that a genuinely specialist education is a strong pull factor. I don't think that is what most posters are concerned about.

However most boarding schools aren't like that - yes they have good education and "great facilities" but something similar could be found in private day schools or grammar schools. I simply can't understand the choice to send away to boarding school rather than a good day school.

We would prioritise moving and living with our children over living in a certain area ourselves. If we lived in an area with only crap schools we would move, change jobs if nrcessary, have a smaller house in a better area, rent. If really necessary dh would work away and I would live with the children near the school. Dh and I would be much more able to cope with separation than a child!

Even if my young child said they wanted to go to boarding school, I would take that with a pinch of salt. Young children aren't always able to fully appreciate the ramifications of decisions and don't know how they (and other children) will change as they get older. As a child I was desperate to go to boarding school - I loved boarding school books, I loved primary school and my family life wasn't that happy. However I'm really glad my mum couldn't afford it, as actually it wouldn't have been good for me. Private space, a world outside the intense world of school friendships, down time with family where you can be yourself - really important (even though my home life was stressful too). I now look back and realise I was anxious and uneasy a lot of the time at school, and struggled to fit in. I wouldn't have recognised this at the time, and I certainly didn't tell my parents, I always said - and mostly believed - that I liked school and had lots of friends. I just don't think most young children have the emotional maturity to make these assessments.

I'm not talking about your daughter here Gilly as yes she does sound exceptionally driven and the school is offering her something another school couldn't. So whilst I wouldn't make that choice myself I can understand your reasoning. I don't think your case is representative of most children at boarding school.

Of those I know who went away to boarding school, some say they missed their parents horribly but put a brave face on, and they would say they thought it was the wrong decision. Others resolutely insist that it was Fantastic and they would definitely send their own children to boarding school, nothing else would do. When you ask why it was so great, the reasons are odd. Firstly the facilities, which can be accessed as a day pupil, so not a good reason. Secondly they often talk about being made to stand on their own two feet and be independent at a young age. I don't think forcing a young child to be independent at an arbitrary age is desirable. Of course their peers who went to day school have also managed to grow into independent adults. Why force it early? In fact many of them have gone into the military, which is a bit like boarding school, so not fully independent....

One said that he thought boarding school was character building as he had to be a "fag" (errand boy) for a senior pupil - clean his study, do his errands. This scheme was compulsory. In exchange the senior boy gave him some protection from bullies. As an intelligent man in his 30s he thought this scheme was excellent and he was pissed off it had been stopped before he became a senior. He just didn't see it was horrible, to have an 18 year old bossing around a new young boy, with the hope that if he cleaned well enough and earnt favour, he might get some let up from the bullies.

Of those I know who went to boarding school, they are "successful" - good careers, well off, wide circle of mates, attractive spouses - but lacking in self awareness and empathy, denying any weaknesses, and determined to Cope with a grin and a joke in any circumstances. These were ex's and previous good friends so I knew them well.

The exception was a girl who was in boarding school as SS had taken her into care, her grandparents had her in the holidays but couldn't year round, she was delighted as it was better than foster care in her experience.

HopelesslydevotedtoGu · 24/09/2017 12:03

Would add I'm talking about children sent to boarding school when young here, and general boarding schools not a specialist school.
I knew one who boarded just for sixth form which they found a good experience.

And obviously there are some different circumstances eg ballet school, Catkin's specialist school, where things may weigh up differently

Oldie2017 · 24/09/2017 13:00

I agree. My music teacher's daughter at school got into residential music school as did her sister but the sister decided to stay at their Newcastle comp. They ended up with very different educations. Whether one was psychologically damaged or not I don't know as I don't know the girls and my father seeing so many psychiatric patients damaged by boarding of course is just the people who seek or need help. Loads don't. Also some parents are really dreadful and boarding is a release for the children.

We also knew one lady who was a widow and dying of cancer. She decided to send the boy to board at 8 so he had very close friends and teachers to support him but I am not even sure if that is right - dying parent sends you away! That would not be the best psychology in my view. One friend found neither parent wanted him on the divorce and they used to fight over which would have to have him in school holidays as neither did - that kind of situation boarding can be better than being at home.

therealpippi · 24/09/2017 13:11

Alex Renton's book is very very good and it does highlights and explains why and how is very much a british thing.
I'd recommemd it to anybody, even those who had a great time.
I'd also recommend watching these docu on yourtube. It gives an hindsight on how children will hide their feelings from their parents. It may not mean you have to take them home but it may suggest a different way to communicate and to listen. Useful for wveryone really.

HappyLollipop · 24/09/2017 13:19

If the parents have high flying careers that mean they're not around and have to do a large amount of travelling then I guess boarding schools can offer a degree of stability that they wouldn't get with their parents but if one parent can be the main caretaker then I don't see the point in sending your children so far away especially when they are so young it's almost like wiping your hands clean of them because you can't be bothered!

scaryteacher · 24/09/2017 13:44

Myfeet The U.S. military is run on an entirely different basis to the UK military; the former has far more money and investment. You won't find US military kids at the local international schools in Brussels...they attend the purpose built US military run school in Sterrebeek.

Glad you think the Glasgow to Cornwall journey is 'not that far'. Given the dearth of airports in the West country and the cost, it wasn't worth weekend commuting at one point. Interesting you think that separated and potentially unhappy parents better than boarding school. I wonder how long you have coped with a serving spouse, weekly or six weekly commuting, a full time job, and being the one with the kids? Until you've done it for years on the trot, and then have to decide whether to give up your hard won career because you just can't deal with it any more, or get divorced, then I suggest, not politely, that you STFU.

I am married to one of the adults produced by the boarding system, sister to another, sister in law to two others and an aunt to two of them. I boarded at 16, as did my ds. We are all perfectly normal adults, who have long marriages, good relationships with our kids, and function well.

Other countries do things I find strange (especially the U.S.), but that's part of their culture. Boarding schools are part of ours...and the U.S. has them too.

Hoppinggreen · 24/09/2017 14:31

Yes but why should BOTH parents have high flying careers that mean they have to palm off bringing up their children onto boarding school
When you have dc you have to make sacrifices, you can't just carry on as before and hope they slot in - or send them away

Someoneasdumbasthis · 24/09/2017 14:36

Ffs. I went to boarding school at 11. My little sister at 8. She's one of the most balanced and brilliant people I know. We all have amazing relationships with both parents. Are very close to each other. And have great relationships with those we went to school with.

Just because it isn't right for you or your family don't go around judging everyone else. I loved it more than I can say.

bringbackfonzi · 24/09/2017 14:46

scaryteacher Life as a largely single parent while your spouse is in the forces does sound really hard. But I don't entirely understand some of your points. Why are parents separated from each other unhappier than parents separated from their children, or children separated from their parents? And yes, I think many posters are suggesting that giving up a hard-won career would be preferable to sending your dc away.

millifiori · 24/09/2017 14:54

I understand it if there's underlying circumstances that mean a child would be more settled at a school than at home. But otherwise, I just don't get it. Why would you? The 'best opportunties' reason doesn't make sense because there are brilliant day schools. We live a long time, but our DC are only children for 18 years. And that time races by. Once they're gone, my career can take a front seat again. So can DH. It's a bit baffling that anyone would elect to miss out on huge chunks of something so important and short-lived as their own DC's childhood.

therealpippi · 24/09/2017 14:59

Not only that but a person is only a child for a short time. There's all your life to be that independent, to not be hugged, to not feel vulnerable and ok with crying at night for no particular reason or because you think there are monsters under your bed. To have your toys and being able to play with them even if they are not cool or too babish for their age.
I don't know, it seems crazy to rush it all.

myfeetarealwayscold · 24/09/2017 15:09

Scary - that's just not true re: US military families in Brussels - I of many who are in international day school or local school. Their non working parent is there to look after them as normal and the military spouse lives at home with them when not on ops.
And as for the money - it's costing us taxpayers a mot of money to have military British kids staying in these posh - and they all are elite - boarding schools. So money isn't that much of a factor.
I still maintain that someone working in Sotland could get back every few weeks if they wanted to to see family. Bit of course if they think it's better for their kids not to see them for months and have no family life because they're in a boarding school then that's their call and we have to pay for it.

myfeetarealwayscold · 24/09/2017 15:12

Literally pay for it i mean. I think things might be different if they had to fork out the money. But from my experience of adults who went to boarding schools I think they really pay for it in so many other ways later.

cardibach · 24/09/2017 15:17

Where does the 'not seeing them for months' come from? What ever you think about boarding, it's rarely more than 4 weeks, usually 3, between exeats and holidays.
To the previous poster who said that only those who boarded themselves send their children - there are only 2 girls in the boarding house in which I work whose parents boarded.

gillybeanz · 24/09/2017 15:24

Gosh, you get to see them as often as you want/can.
If mine has a busy weekend and can't come home I meet her and take her out for tea, not the same as home but we get a few hours together.
There are only 3 weeks before exeat and the kids have to come home, or in the case of overseas they have a guardian who looks after them during half terms and exeats.
Some even go home at half term as they can be 2 weeks in some cases.
This Oct half term my dd has nearly 2 weeks off.
Christmas is about 3 weeks and summer 10 weeks.

Before anybody says it's a different type of boarding, it's run and managed the same as every other boarding school

brasty · 24/09/2017 15:28

But surely all these families posted abroad or incredibly far away, can not see their kids very often?

gillybeanz · 24/09/2017 15:54

That's correct, at my dd school they have a guardian and usually only go home for the longer holidays.
Some parents who live in the UK will travel and stay over night in a hotel for important school events, there aren't many that miss these events, usually just the parents from overseas.
I'm not sure if that's the same for other boarding schools though, dd school has quite a few international students as the school attracts them.

mathanxiety · 24/09/2017 18:34

This is a British ( English really) thing to do. And look at the kind of adults it produces. [myfeetarealwayscold]

I agree. And yes, there are boarding schools in the US, but they are few and very far between, and attractive to only a very, very small minority of families. It is considered a very strange choice.

I have an exSIL whose dad was in the US Navy. She was born on a base and went all the way through school on various bases all over the world, and on to university. I had an old neighbour whose late husband worked as a telecommunications engineer all over the world too - they were posted to Japan, Germany and England in the post war period, and their children went with them. They went to local schools in Germany and England, and an American school in Japan. Each posting was for about three years. They saw it as a priceless opportunity for the children to see the world.

orlantina · 24/09/2017 18:35

Before anybody says it's a different type of boarding, it's run and managed the same as every other boarding school

Private boarding school.

State boarding schools are different - no exeats.
Normal half terms, 2 weeks at Easter and 6 weeks at summer.

gillybeanz · 24/09/2017 18:52

Orlantina

I meant that dd school isn't typical and is often pointed out to me.
However, I didn't know that state boarding was different.
I suppose dd school must be part state part private then Grin
just goes to show how they are different in some respects.
Kids are still away from parents, whichever way.

To anyone waving dc off after exeat and finding it difficult Thanks
I'm not crying, but there was a time I'd be howling now.

ElsaMars · 24/09/2017 18:59

I work with someone who talked about picking her boys up from boarding school at Christmastime. I can't lie, I judged.

orlantina · 24/09/2017 19:03

I suppose dd school must be part state part private then

DSIS went to a private boarding school - I was a bit jealous of her much longer holidays and her exeats.

orlantina · 24/09/2017 19:06

But yes - boarding school does make you independent. I had to do a 4 hour train, train and bus journey by myself at 14 back and too from school at holidays. We had to do our own personal washing (not uniform) by hand and make our own decisions about school work instead of having a parent tell you it needed being done and then nagging you if it wasn't up to scratch.

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