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Is he Right, Left, or is He Nothing at All? Trump thread continued.

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TheClaws · 17/09/2017 01:20

My bet is on nothing.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3024189-In-the-dim-corner-we-have-Trump-In-the-dictator-corner-we-have-Kim-Or-is-that-mixed-up

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AcrossthePond55 · 19/09/2017 23:15

The thing that really makes me shake my head about my cousin is that she has her health insurance under the ACA. She is very worried about losing that insurance (as well she should be!). But she just doesn't make the connection. It's Congress, doncha see? I'm planning to throw in a few 'Trump's fault' comments when we talk about it.

I'm going down to spend 10 days with her to rest and relax. I really will too, she has a beautiful garden and is truly a peaceful, restful person to be around. This may sound a bit 'woo' but she really seems to exude a sweetness of spirit and a sense of calm. Needless to say, we won't be discussing politics! And least not over wine in the garden!

It's funny, our mothers were sisters and our fathers were similar 'types'. Yet she and I are as different as chalk and cheese. Luckily, we're different in complementary ways.

I've stayed away from the TV today. The bits of Scrotus' speech I've heard just give me the rage and DH isn't here to 'vent' with. So I'm escaping by re-watching season 6 of Call the Midwife. It was just released today on Netflix here.

TheClaws · 20/09/2017 01:01

Breitbarters think his speech was fantastic and everything is forgotten and he is their hero again Sad That only took a couple of days. They really aren't capable of critical, independent thought, are they?

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 06:42

It is very depressing but so is the fact that the "flat earthers" movement consists of millions of people. Some people just operate on a different plane not reality

CNN Politics
CNN Politics @CNNPolitics
Exclusive: Mueller’s team is reaching back 11 years in its investigation of former Trump campaign chairman Manafort cnn.it/2yccz0x

(CNN) Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team is reaching back more than a decade in its investigation of Paul Manafort, a sign of the pressure Mueller is placing on President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman.

The FBI's warrant for a July search of Manafort's Alexandria, Virginia, home said the investigation centered on possible crimes committed as far back as January 2006, according to a source briefed on the investigation.

The broad time frame is the latest indication that Mueller's team is going well beyond Russian meddling during the campaign as part of its investigation of Trump campaign associates. Manafort, who has been the subject of an FBI investigation for three years, has emerged as a focal point for Mueller.

Olga_Lautman NYC ✨ @olgaNYC1211
Mueller looking into Manafort's past 11 years.. Know what else happened 11 years ago? Manafort moved into Trump Mob Towers #TrumpRussia

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 06:43

ABC News @ABC
Robert Mueller's investigators interviewed Rod Rosenstein as part of Russia probe.

abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/robert-muellers-investigators-interviewed-rod-rosenstein-part-russia/story?id=49968303

TheClaws · 20/09/2017 06:45

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago
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I was saddened to see how bad the ratings were on the Emmys last night - the worst ever. Smartest people of them all are the "DEPLORABLES."

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago
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Donald J. Trump Retweeted 10 GOP
So nice, thank you!Donald J. Trump added,
10 GOP @10_gop
Replying to @realDonaldTrump
We love you, Mr. President!

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago
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A great and important day at the United Nations.Met with leaders of many nations who agree with much (or all) of what I stated in my speech!

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago
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Puerto Rico being hit hard by new monster Hurricane. Be careful, our hearts are with you- will be there to help!

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago
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The true question for the @UN...
🎥instagram.com/p/BZPnyKZAIA5/

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 8h8 hours ago
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It was a great honor to have spoken before the countries of the world at the United Nations.
#USAatUNGA🇺🇸#UNGA
instagram.com/p/BZPRctNg-5U/

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 06:45

Burr: Facebook to testify publicly on Russian electoral disruption

www.politico.com/story/2017/09/19/facebook-russia-election-probe-burr-242902

Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) told reporters that he anticipates Facebook representatives testifying sometime this fall.

"I can only go by what I’ve heard them say publicly, and they’ve expressed they don’t have anything to hide, so a public hearing would be very appropriate," Burr said.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 06:49

Dan Diamond @ddiamond
SCOOP with @rachanadixit: HHS secretary Tom Price has been taking charter jets to conduct government business.

www.politico.com/story/2017/09/19/tom-price-chartered-planes-flights-242908

Tom Price
Tom Price @RepTomPrice
New video on YouTube: Congress doesn't need to have private jets. bit.ly/28af0Q
5:22 pm · 11 Aug 2009

Adrianna McIntyre @onceuponA
Tom Price: Favors slashing Medicaid, balance-billing in Medicare—and $$$ private flights instead of flying commercial like his predecessors.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 06:54

Threatening nuclear war and criticising the emmy's - no difference in how trump prioritises or sees them

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 06:57

Surveillance of Paul Manafort occurred during 2016 campaign

According to a former U.S. official, the intercepts picked up conversations between Manafort and Russian individuals about the campaign. The intercepts potentially include conversations between Manafort and President Trump.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 07:01

Manafort’s lawyers refusing to answer Senate’s phone calls — even after indictment threat

www.rawstory.com/2017/09/manaforts-lawyers-refusing-to-answer-senates-phone-calls-even-after-indictment-threat/amp/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 07:05

Joy Reid @JoyAnnReid
If Trump's speech at the U.N. today seemed familiar, maybe it's because you heard it before, from Vladimir Putin.

www.thedailybeast.com/trump-uses-putins-arguments-to-undermine-the-world?source=twitter&via=desktop

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 07:08

CNN Politics
CNN Politics @CNNPolitics
Jon Huntsman, nominee for US ambassador to Russia, says there is "no question Russia interfered in the US election"

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/09/19/politics/jon-huntsman-russia-election-interference/index.html

jobergamot · 20/09/2017 07:10

He's mad as a box of frogs isn't he. Practically inciting nuclear war constantly. It's all willy waving stuff he does. Must have chronic low self esteem that manifests in ego and narcissism.

orlantina · 20/09/2017 07:11

This little Twitter catch up speaks volumes.Trump, Obama and Kelly

Is he Right, Left, or is He Nothing at All? Trump thread continued.
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 07:16

There's lots of health insurance news too:

Bipartisan deal collapsed (people think McConnell forced Alexander to abandon it so that the pressure increases on passing any bill ie the graham/Cassidy shit show)

Bill also very damaging to women and doesn't cover pregnancy as preexisting condition etc

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 07:20

Ha orlantina that's pretty much it in a nutshell

lionheart · 20/09/2017 07:26

Russian speak makes perfect sense.

Then there is Sessions stirring the pot:

Ryan Lucas‏Verified account
@relucasz

AG Sessions, speaking in Portland, says "lawless policies" make sanctuary cities " a trafficker, smuggler, or gang member’s best friend."

Eric Holder‏Verified account @EricHolder 6h6 hours ago

Prove it. Not with alternative facts or ideological BS. With valid statistics. You can't do it.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 07:28

Turkish president: Trump apologized for indictment of security staff in brawl

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan says Trump called him about US legal action targeting 19 people involved in clash with peaceful protesters in Washington this year

amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/19/turkey-trump-erdogan-apology-washington

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 07:33

I hesistated about posting this yesterday because I'm not sure about how much is speculation but I'm throwing caution to the wind this morning:

Jon Cooper @joncoopertweets
🔥Mueller has Trump's tax returns.
🔥FBI wiretapped Manafort.
🔥Don Jr drops secret service protection.
👇👇👇
ALL HELL'S ABOUT TO BREAK LOOSE!!

By the way, this is NOT hyperbole. Trust me, things will shortly be getting very "interesting" for Donald Trump and his partners in crime.

www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-09-18/robert-mueller-likely-has-donald-trumps-tax-returns?context=amp

The #TrumpRussia probe 'has reached a critical stage' and Mueller may announce criminal charges soon aol.it/2hfp5cr

lionheart · 20/09/2017 07:35

Should anyone feel the slump.

Serena Williams‏Verified account @serenawilliams 12h12 hours ago
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Letter to my mom.

www.reddit.com/user/serenawilliams/comments/714c1b/letter_to_my_mom/?st=J7RXEDXB&sh=5c384abb

Is he Right, Left, or is He Nothing at All? Trump thread continued.
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 07:35

jobergamot Kim has retaliated with his own choice nickname (god help us that they stick to trading insults and not nuclear weapons)

David Corn @DavidCornDC
NK just put out a statement calling Trump a "Madman Across the Water."

orlantina · 20/09/2017 07:38

I watched Horrible Histories and they often have world leaders on social media - such as Churchill and Henry VIII. Trading insults etc.

Who'd have thought it would be reality?

PerkingFaintly · 20/09/2017 07:50

Got something in my eye at Serena's letter...

badbadhusky · 20/09/2017 08:15

Pain - What is the source for that list of the ACA reforms on women? I want to share it.

BiglyBadgers · 20/09/2017 08:18

NK just put out a statement calling Trump a "Madman Across the Water."

Now it really has gone all Game of Thrones