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Is he Right, Left, or is He Nothing at All? Trump thread continued.

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TheClaws · 17/09/2017 01:20

My bet is on nothing.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3024189-In-the-dim-corner-we-have-Trump-In-the-dictator-corner-we-have-Kim-Or-is-that-mixed-up

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 08:30

bad

It's this person

@ASlavitt
Ran Medicare, Medicaid & ACA for President Obama. @bpc_bipartisan, Senior Advisor. @usatoday, Columnist. Future of Healthcare, co-chair. Opinions mine.

He tweeted that list with th following caption so I think he'd be glad that you're sharing!

Andy Slavitt @ASlavitt

JUST OUT: Here's a summary of the Graham-Cassidy repeal. Yes, it's that bad.

Spread far and wide if useful.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 08:31

He's for a good thread on the current status of healthcare here:

Andy Slavitt
Andy Slavitt @ASlavitt
1/ Let me interpret the days health care news for folks.

mobile.twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/910281638835351552

MsHooliesCardigan · 20/09/2017 09:49

Reuters news agency said one audience member covered his face with his hands, and that loud, startled murmurs filled the hall in response

This was the reaction to Donnie's UN speech.

badbadhusky · 20/09/2017 10:29

Assuming that it hasn't all kicked off re impeachment (I wish!) before the next thread, I think Donnie's "madman across the water" nickname from KJU should feature in the next thread title - works just as well for us in the UK/Europe.

pinkingshears · 20/09/2017 10:34

I too vote for 'Madman across the Water' in the next thread title.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 10:36

Sorry bad, I've got a bit muddled up. The image that Andy Slavitt shared was this one, which is apparently sourced by the Centre for Budget and Policy, CBO prior estimates.

The image I posted earlier seems to be a version of that but isn't the original.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 12:37

Rebekah Gee‏
@rebekahgeemd

My letter to @BillCassidy explaining how his bill uniquely and disproportionally hurts his home state of Louisiana.

Chris Hayes‏Verified account @chrislhayes

Chris Hayes Retweeted Rebekah Gee
It's one of the damndest things about this entire enterprise. He's written a bill that very explicitly screws his own state.

Amy‏ @bluetucker Sep 18
makes you wonder what he is getting promised under the table

Eugenia Stonecroft‏
@EugeniaStonecr1
Replying to @bluetucker @chrislhayes
Wonder no more. The Koch donor network will give GOP $400M for 2018 only if ACA is repealed & tax reform passes

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/26/koch-network-piggy-banks-closed-republicans-healthcare-tax-reform

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Is he Right, Left, or is He Nothing at All? Trump thread continued.
badbadhusky · 20/09/2017 13:25

Wonder no more. The Koch donor network will give GOP $400M for 2018 only if ACA is repealed & tax reform passes

Drain the swamp! 🙄

Lweji · 20/09/2017 13:27

I may have mentioned before that I'm reading Jared Diamond's "Collapse - how societies choose to fail or survive".

This is from the end of one chapter:

"...we have to wonder why the kings and nobles failed to recognise and solve these seemingly obvious problems undermining their society. Their attention was evidently focused on their short-term concerns of enriching themselves, waging wars, erecting monuments, competing with each other, and extracting enough food from the peasants to support all those activities. (...)

Like Easter Island chiefs erecting ever larger statues (...) and like Anasazi elite treating themselves to necklaces of 2000 turquoise beads, Maya kings sought to outdo each other with more and more impressive temples (...) - reminiscent of the extravagant consumption by modern American CEOs. The passivity of Easter chiefs and Maya kings in the face of the real big threats to their societies completes our list of disquieting parallels."

It seems very relevant regarding ACA bills.

cozietoesie · 20/09/2017 13:31

They saw no connection between their actions and the fate of their people or their world.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 20/09/2017 13:40

They're not the only ones...

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Lweji · 20/09/2017 13:42

Yes, it's remarkable how humans don't change.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 15:46

Renato Mariotti‏Verified account @renato_mariotti

My dissection of Trump lawyer Michael Cohen's statement--a mix of carefully worded denials and political rhetoric.

www.justsecurity.org/45169/federal-prosecutor-dissects-trump-lawyer-michael-cohens-statement-senate/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 15:48

Preet Bharara‏Verified account @PreetBharara

Listen to my first podcast episode here. I tell about that time President Trump fired me + Leon Panetta is my guest.

itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/stay-tuned-with-preet/id1265845136?mt=2

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 15:49

Andy Slavitt‏Verified account @ASlavitt 1h1 hour ago
More
JUST OUT: Under Graham Cassidy ACA repeal...

-a 31% cut to Medicaid for kids
-a 15% cut for ppl w/ disabilities

I say never.

Please RT.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 15:53

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-support-pizzagate-restaurant_us_59c13cc9e4b0186c22060274

Hillary Clinton Secretly Supported ‘Pizzagate’ Restaurant After Incident

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 16:19

Reuters World‏Verified account
@ReutersWorld

Exclusive: From Russia with fuel - North Korean ships may be undermining sanctions

www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-russia-exclusive/exclusive-from-russia-with-fuel-north-korean-ships-may-be-undermining-sanctions-idUSKCN1BV1DC?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FworldNews+%28Reuters+World+News%29

MOSCOW (Reuters) - At least eight North Korean ships that left Russia with a cargo of fuel this year headed for their homeland despite declaring other destinations, a ploy that U.S. officials say is often used to undermine sanctions.

Reuters has no evidence of wrongdoing by the vessels, whose movements were recorded in Reuters ship-tracking data. Changing a ship’s destination once underway is not forbidden and it is unclear whether any of the ships unloaded fuel in North Korea.

But U.S. officials say that changing destination mid-voyage is a hallmark of North Korean state tactics to circumvent the international trade sanctions imposed over Pyongyang’s nuclear weapons program.

Changing course and the complex chain of different firms many offshore involved in shipments can complicate efforts to check how much fuel is supplied to North Korea and monitor compliance with a cap on fuel imports under U.N. sanctions.

“As part of North Korea’s efforts to acquire revenue, the regime uses shipping networks to import and export goods,” U.S. Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Marshall S. Billingslea told the Congressional Foreign Affairs Committee this month.

“North Korea employs deceptive practices to conceal the true origins of these goods. Pyongyang has been found to routinely falsify a vessel’s identity and documentation.”

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 16:25

Ari Berman‏Verified account
@AriBerman

Trump judicial nominee defended NC voter suppression law that targeted black voters "with almost surgical precision"

medium.com/@vanitaguptaCR/farrs-nomination-is-trump-s-newest-attack-on-the-right-to-vote-54849aea7f6d

Farr’s Nomination is Trump’s Newest Attack on the Right to Vote

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 17:00

Noah Shachtman
Noah Shachtman @NoahShachtman
EXCLUSIVE: Suspected Russian propagandists used Facebook to set up pro-Trump 'flash mobs' throughout Florida.

www.thedailybeast.com/russians-appear-to-use-facebook-to-push-pro-trump-flash-mobs-in-florida

cozietoesie · 20/09/2017 17:24

I find it ......concerning that people are already talking about it.

What happens if........

cozietoesie · 20/09/2017 17:32

Part of Mr Mueller's team. A Beast piece.

Stephen Kelly

orlantina · 20/09/2017 17:39

Have you seen this video? Morgan Freeman on the election

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 17:43

@kurteichenwald
Proof Kremlin aint so bright: Attacking Morgan Freeman to Americans who adore him, leading folks 2 watch his video.

www.rawstory.com/2017/09/kremlin-mouthpieces-attack-emotional-morgan-freeman-and-insist-everyone-should-ignore-his-russia-video/amp/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 17:45

BuzzFeed News
BuzzFeed News @BuzzFeedNews
Trump is running targeted Facebook ads promising “A WALL (NOT A FENCE)” while asking for donations

www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/craigsilverman/trump-is-using-targeted-facebook-ads-to-reassure-supporters

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 20/09/2017 18:39

Matt Fuller
Matt Fuller @MEPFuller

McCain still insisting on regular order for G-C.

Me: So you're still a no?

McCain: "I want the regular order, is the answer to that."