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To call out casual sexism in a work meeting even if it was 'just a joke'.

130 replies

AltCarbon · 14/09/2017 20:18

First time on Aibu but this seriously annoyed me today and I was baffled by everyone else's reactions.

I am head of department in a secondary school and it was our leadership meeting this evening. There is one (male) member of staff that blatantly never listens or contributes (sat on his laptop etc) and then asks the same question we have literally just spent the last 15 or so minutes discussing. Everyone complains about it afterwards as it is infuriating and drags the meeting on every time as we then go over it all again for his benefit. So today I, politely as I could, said "we've just discussed this, you weren't listening, what are you unsure of?". He then turned to the colleagues next to him (the other men in the room) and loudly said "I never listen to women I just tune it out" and they all laughed.

I was horrified and so replied that I thought his comment was a totally appalling thing to say in a professional meeting and that I was genuinely offended that he thought casual sexism was acceptable. He went quiet and we then moved on but from the looks on everyone's faces (including the women) it seemed they would have all just accepted it and would never question it at all.

I know he would have been uncomfortable that I pointed out his inattention but I just think his response needed challenging as I hate how we are constantly surrounded by these small, seemingly acceptable ways of disparaging women.

So, was I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
Flomper · 14/09/2017 20:21

Y A N B U

well done for saying something.

everyone will be along soon saying lighten up, was just a joke, no big deal etc. But all these little comments add up and affect people's perception, that's why casual sexism is so insidious and should be challenged.

museumum · 14/09/2017 20:21

God no. Yanbu

I'd have told him that when the woman in question is his superior at work then not listening is unprofessional and entirely out of order.

TheEgregiousPeach · 14/09/2017 20:22

YANBU. At all. And well done for calling it out.

EastMidsMummy · 14/09/2017 20:22

Good work.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 14/09/2017 20:23

No! No! No! Not unreasonable at all. Well done for calling him on it.

Escapepeas · 14/09/2017 20:24

I would have 100% pulled someone up on that if they said it to me in a meeting. Totally unacceptable.

khajiit13 · 14/09/2017 20:24

He should be embarrassed

sourpatchkid · 14/09/2017 20:24

Wow he was really rude!! Well done you

ForalltheSaints · 14/09/2017 20:24

Good on you.

CaoNiMartacus · 14/09/2017 20:24

YANBU.

Substitute "woman" for any other group and what he said would not be ok.

Witsender · 14/09/2017 20:25

I'm amazed anyone would let him get away with that.

BringOnTheScience · 14/09/2017 20:25

YAmostdefinitelyNBU!

Well done for calling him out on it. And don't be afraid to haul him up again if he continues to act in an unprofessional manner.

FiaMarrow · 14/09/2017 20:25

Yanbu. Well done for speaking out.

GodIsDead · 14/09/2017 20:25

YWDNBU...your colleague sounds like a prat.

SerendipityFelix · 14/09/2017 20:25

YANBU. That wasn't casual sexism, it was out and brazen full frontal misogyny.

WillowWeeping · 14/09/2017 20:26

YANBU at all.

Calling him out on not listening was awesome. Challenging him on his extraordinarily rude retort even more so.

Others will have been silently cheering.

AltCarbon · 14/09/2017 20:26

Oh good, I'm so pleased it's not just me.

Museumum: I'm not his superior, we're on the same level, but our head and deputy are both female and I bet he wouldn't have said it if they were in the meeting!

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Loungingbutnotforlong · 14/09/2017 20:26

Well done you! I was thinking you were going to say 'I wish I said x or y'- but you actually said it. Brilliant

Ikabod · 14/09/2017 20:26

Good for you! Sounds like you dealt with it perfectly!

YellowFlower201 · 14/09/2017 20:27

What an arse!! Well handled OP.

YouCantCallMeBetty · 14/09/2017 20:28

Definitely YANBU, well done! I hope he doesn't carry that attitude into the classroom with him Confused

LonginesPrime · 14/09/2017 20:28

Well done, OP - you rock!

HumpHumpWhale · 14/09/2017 20:28

Jesus. YANBU. That's APPALLING. I cannot imagine someone saying something like that at my work!

AltCarbon · 14/09/2017 20:29

WillowWeeping: I think they appreciated me saying something about not listening but they all looked horrified that I called him out on his 'joke'.

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John4703 · 14/09/2017 20:30

and loudly said "I never listen to women I just tune it out" and they all laughed.
As a man who reads things on here I'd say he is totally out of order. You might be being unreasonable for not slapping his face after such a comment. Does he think we are in the dark ages?

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