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In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?

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TheClaws · 04/09/2017 08:30

....aand we're expecting a dirty, unfair fight.

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3015872-Trump-yes-we-have-no-Steve-Bannon

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TheClaws · 14/09/2017 12:48

Sorry those were in reverse chronological order.

As Trump appears to have flipped on the DACA amnesty, his base has gone into a frenzy. Breitbart is on fire. Hannity is foaming at the mouth. The Earth may have tilted off its axis a little bit. I really can't imagine what Trump is playing at there.

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Natsku · 14/09/2017 13:16

Trump has just gone back to his original opinion on dreamers hasn't he?

Natsku · 14/09/2017 13:17

Yeah lionheart you have to be able to trust the judges for the system here to work - I don't think I'd feel so confident in it in the UK.

AcrossthePond55 · 14/09/2017 13:22

I think maybe Melania forgot to give him his meds this morning. But if it makes him reverse directions midstream on things, then maybe they should just flush them down the loo!

DH and I were discussing how funny/not funny it would be if he announced "Yeah, being a Republican wasn't as fun as I thought it would be. I didn't really get to DO much. So I've decided I'm now a Democrat and it's going to be no wall, welcome dreamers, equality for all, down with hate, diplomatic solutions for NK and the ME, and Russia can go swivel, and I'm giving ALL my money to charity!!!".

We decided it would be too much of a cosmic shift and all our heads would explode.

cozietoesie · 14/09/2017 13:26

I'm sorry, Natsku, but I don't believe he actually has opinions - other than the respective temperatures at which to serve fries and Coke.

AcrossthePond55 · 14/09/2017 13:27

Oh, and that New Yorker cover of Hillary gave me a lump in my throat.

If wishes were horses..........

Natsku · 14/09/2017 13:35

Hah you may be right there cozie!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/09/2017 14:17

Across and natsku

Amy Siskind‏Verified account @Amy_Siskind

Trump tries out policies like most of us try on clothes in a fitting room. He has no agenda or vision.He's an authoritarian who wants power.

Peter Daou‏Verified account @peterdaou

ONCE AGAIN: The surest path to better press for Trump (who craves it) is to embrace Democratic positions. Took him 8 months to get here.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/09/2017 14:18

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At this point, who DOESN'T want Trump impeached?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/09/2017 14:19

www.thedailybeast.com/facebook-we-wont-reveal-if-russia-targeted-you?via=twitter_page

Exclusive: Facebook Won’t Reveal if Russia Targeted You During the Election

cozietoesie · 14/09/2017 14:25

Pain

I pretty well agree with Siskind and Daou. He wants praise - and how much sweeter and more believable it is in the wee small hours if it comes from former 'critics'. A bit like the parable of the Prodigal Son.

lionheart · 14/09/2017 14:53

He wants to be worshipped.

catgirl1976 · 14/09/2017 16:12

I have been loving watching Trumpeters have full on melt downs in the Brietbart comments section today. Really cheered me up :)

PerkingFaintly · 14/09/2017 16:37

Remember Obama's "I was black before the election"?

Trump's has to be "I was a self-serving liar before the election."

Trumpeters got what they voted for. He does what it says on the tin.

PerkingFaintly · 14/09/2017 16:38

Obama to Letterman, if anyone wants a reminder.

lionheart · 14/09/2017 16:44

President Obama. Smile Sad

Those reactions also cheered me catgirl. Let's hope the wrath and sense of betrayal lasts through the elections.

AcrossthePond55 · 14/09/2017 16:57

Shock Shock Ann Coulter??!! Shock Shock

Pain I think those tweets are too right! He just wants to be in the limelight of his 'adoring' fans. He doesn't care who those fans are, as long as he has fans.

Maybe the Dems are learning that the way to 'control' him is through flattery. With him it appears that 'flattery will get you everywhere'!

lionheart · 14/09/2017 16:59

He is going to discover you cannot please all the people all the time ...

lettuceWrap · 14/09/2017 18:09

I thought uk voters on this thread might be interested in this petition, started yesterday. I voted remain, and definitely want a vote on accepting the actual deal once it's thrashed out, I'm many who voted leave also want a say on whether to accept the final deal.

I realise it will probably mean bugger all to our elective representative but I feel the better for signing it anyway (my voice will be heard, if only faintlyConfused).

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/200004

AcrossthePond55 · 14/09/2017 18:22

True Lion

I think that most Dems would be willing to use him, but never trust him. If he were to swear on his mother's grave that he'd had a Damascene Conversion and was now a true blue Dem, I still wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit into a Hurricane. But I'd sure as hell be willing to play along until I got what I wanted. Hypocritical? Maybe. But needs must when the Devil drives.

AcrossthePond55 · 14/09/2017 18:25

I must admit the Brexit thing confuses me, lettuce. I know what it is but it seems that the vote was not the 'end of the show'. That it can still be stopped? Or maybe that so many roadblocks/debates/conditions can be put on it that it just never gets 'done'?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/09/2017 18:41

It can be stopped and the EU has said as much but there isn't the political will in the uk to do so at the moment and the opposition have gone along with the government so there hasn't been much pushback to the current disastrous path we're hurtling along.

www.thedailybeast.com/i-bought-a-russian-bot-army-for-under-dollar100?source=twitter&via=desktop

I bought a Russian bot army for under $100

lionheart · 14/09/2017 18:54

The bot thing. Shock

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/09/2017 18:59

Ryan Adams
Ryan Adams @filmystic
Sen. Mark Warner: "Hard to believe #Facebook only closed 470 fake Russian troll accounts in the U.S. — but closed 50,000 of them in France."

Facebook still doesn't know the extent of Russian ad buys in election

money.cnn.com/2017/09/14/media/facebook-russia-questions/index.html