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In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?

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TheClaws · 04/09/2017 08:30

....aand we're expecting a dirty, unfair fight.

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3015872-Trump-yes-we-have-no-Steve-Bannon

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/09/2017 07:05

This has also not gone down well

Trump is 'open' to ObamaCare fix, lawmakers say
thehill.com/policy/healthcare/350579-trump-open-to-obamacare-fix-lawmakers-say-after-meeting?amp

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/09/2017 07:10

Facebook Is Still Hiding Crucial Russia Intel From the Public

www.motherjones.com/politis/2017/09/facebook-is-still-hiding-crucial-russia-intel-from-the-public/

Facebook Is Still Hiding Crucial Russia Intel From the Public

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/09/2017 07:13

www.rawstory.com/2017/09/kushner-cos-hemorrhaging-money-at-nycs-666-5th-avenue-because-of-his-relationship-to-trump-report/amp

Kushner Cos. hemorrhaging money at NYC’s 666 5th Avenue because of his relationship to Trump: report

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/09/2017 07:16

Trump’s Personal Lawyer To Meet With Senate Next Week

After a 35-page dossier alleged that Michael Cohen worked with Russian officials during the 2016 election, President Donald Trump’s longtime lawyer and confidante is set to speak with congressional investigators.

www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/chrismcdaniel/trumps-personal-lawyer-to-meet-with-senate

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/09/2017 07:18

For anyone with a really long commute Grin

Collection of threads: Trump links to money laundering, fraud & bribes

mobile.twitter.com/i/moments/908170504229543936

lionheart · 14/09/2017 07:23

I love it when the information about stopping leaks gets leaked.

Thanks for the posts, Pain.

I'll add this one about Comey.

www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/13/james-comey-smear-campaign-215601

TheNorthWestPawsage · 14/09/2017 07:23

Pauper Mnuchin who can't afford to take his bride on honeymoon without the use of a government plane is worth at least $500 million...

amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2017/01/11/trump-cabinet-steven-mnuchin-net-worth/?source=dam

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/09/2017 07:31

Good news!

The "pharmacy bro" who massively hiked up the price of a life-saving drug

Jezebel @Jezebel
Martin Shkreli jailed after placing bounty on a strand of Hillary Clinton's hair: bit.ly/2wXWApT

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/09/2017 07:33

Urgh northwest he probably already owns his own private jet! What a twat

lionheart · 14/09/2017 07:37

The thing about the hair was really creepy and dangerous.

lionheart · 14/09/2017 07:49

This starts with Sheriff Joe and moves on to the question of whether a police forces armed with even more powerful weapons might be, erm, an issue. Hmm

www.cato.org/publications/commentary/trumps-decision-military-style-weapons-will-harm-communities?utm_content=buffere38a0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/09/2017 07:51

It really is and I'm glad it wasn't treated as another instance of "oh silly overgrown man-child tried to pull off a hilarious jape and didn't really mean anything by it"

There's been a lot of developments with the Russia investigation over the last few days and maddow's show from Monday and last night are very good at piecing it together in an easy to understand way

On Flynn

New revelations deepen Flynn legal jeopardy www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/new-revelations-deepen-flynn-legal-jeopardy-1046213699539

lionheart · 14/09/2017 07:59

I will catch up with Maddow. There's something quite reassuring about how she lays it out.

cozietoesie · 14/09/2017 08:35

If you want to cheer yourself up over coffee, read the embedded link in that piece about Skhreli linked by Pain. (The piece about remarks made during the jury selection process.) Grin

Natsku · 14/09/2017 09:30

"He disrespected the Wu-Tang Clan" Grin

lionheart · 14/09/2017 11:00

I love the remarks but find the jury selection process a bit alien.

lionheart · 14/09/2017 11:05

This thread is also funny. twitter.com/louisvirtel/status/908099432041738241

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Sarah Huckabee Sanders always looks like she's trying not to seem drunk while asking a pet store cashier for eight beagles.

Natsku · 14/09/2017 11:07

It does seem strange, dismiss anyone who has a prior idea about the case. Don't have a jury system over here and I can see an advantage to that - much rather have my guilt or innocence decided by an intelligent well trained judge or team of judges than a bunch of people who might not understand the evidence.

lionheart · 14/09/2017 12:15

Your version sounds more efficient if people trust the judges.

I imagine they are specifically chosen because of their knowledge and impartiality.

I'm not entirely sure that judges here inspire such confidence.

There have certainly been a number of cases where those few dinosaurs who seem a tad unsuited for their responsibilities have been under public and media scrutiny.

Even if they are held to account by judicial oversight, they still do damage to individuals and the justice system overall.

saffronwblue · 14/09/2017 12:37

What do you all think about the rumours that hope hicks is a special friend of 45?
I keep thinking that Melania should get out now as the next wife is going to be a full time carer.

lionheart · 14/09/2017 12:38

There appears to be lots of confusion (and outrage from MAGA) about whether Trump has flipped on immigration.

Has he already had his dinner with Nancy and Chuck?

lionheart · 14/09/2017 12:42

I'll take one for the team and cut and paste him.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 33m33 minutes ago

Am leaving now for Florida to see our GREAT first responders and to thank the U.S. Coast Guard, FEMA etc. A real disaster, much work to do!

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago

...They have been in our country for many years through no fault of their own - brought in by parents at young age. Plus BIG border security

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago

Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!.....

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago

The WALL, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago

No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote.

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TheClaws · 14/09/2017 12:43

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
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...They have been in our country for many years through no fault of their own - brought in by parents at young age. Plus BIG border security

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
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Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!.....

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
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The WALL, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
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No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote.

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