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In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?

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TheClaws · 04/09/2017 08:30

....aand we're expecting a dirty, unfair fight.

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3015872-Trump-yes-we-have-no-Steve-Bannon

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cozietoesie · 10/09/2017 21:29

Unless, of course, they're simply not savvy enough to realise what can be found on a computer used for word processing. Wink

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/09/2017 21:31

Evan Rosenfeld @Evan_Rosenfeld
BREAKING: @Law360 reports: Priebus, McGahn Hire Attorney William Burck In Mueller Probe

www.law360.com/amp/articles/937051

Caroline O.
Caroline O. @RVAwonk
Reince Priebus lawyered up and he's expected to be questioned by Mueller abt his potential knowledge of the Trump Tower meeting!

....🍿🍿🍿

SanFranBear · 10/09/2017 22:54

Not sure if anyone else has seen the Dog Bio's doing the rounds at the moment (if you haven't, you should!) This one is fab Grin

In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/09/2017 00:10

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
So the Director of Social Media at the White House tweeted out a fake video of flooding during a natural disaster hill.cm/JtadTQc

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/09/06/irma-is-not-a-category-6-hurricane-a-running-list-of-viral-hoaxes-about-the-storm/

A running list of viral hoaxes about Irma -- including one shared by the White House

Abby Ohlheiser @abbyohlheiser
...And now the White House has made it onto our list of viral fake news about Irma

[she's the author of the article]

In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?
In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/09/2017 00:11

Sam Baker
Sam Baker @sam_baker
Jeff Sessions wants to give the entire NSC staff lie-detector tests to see who leaked transcripts of Trump's calls.

www.axios.com/scoop-jeff-sessions-lie-detector-idea-2483756611.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/09/2017 00:15

Walter Shaub @waltshaub
"He continued to form businesses not only after winning in Nov., but also after assuming the presidency in January"

www.salon.com/2017/09/10/trump-inc-inside-the-presidents-not-so-blind-trust/

lionheart · 11/09/2017 00:33

That sounds like an excellent way to tick off the NSC. Smile

lionheart · 11/09/2017 00:35

Neal Katyal‏Verified account @neal_katyal 3h3 hours ago

Always a bad sign when the top WH lawyer has to hire his own lawyer.

www.law360.com/amp/articles/937051

lionheart · 11/09/2017 00:37

Love this.

In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?
TheClaws · 11/09/2017 03:38

CNN‏Verified account @CNN 21m21 minutes ago
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Source: Steve Bannon and his allies are preparing primary challenges against some Republican senators cnn.it/2xfcKef

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/09/2017 07:35

Russia/Ukraine situation

Here's How The West Is Preparing For War With Russia
www.buzzfeed.com/borzoudaragahi/preparing-for-war-with-russia?utm_term=.iwbWgKYr7#.nyavkAyb5

Russian Zapad military exercise in Belarus raises tension
www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-41185915

Nato accuses Russia of blocking observation of massive war game
amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/06/nato-russia-belarus-zapad

Baltic states urge Nato unity as Russia gears up for war games
amp.ft.com/content/cd4c4cae-9486-11e7-a9e6-11d2f0ebb7f0

Molly McKew @MollyMcKew
It is not an accident there is an escalation/potential crisis point in NK at same time as Zapad 2017.

Ukraine Accuses Russia of the Unthinkable: Terror Attacks Against Its Own People
observer.com/2017/09/ukraine-russia-vasyl-hrytsak-terrorism/amp/

Julia Davis @JuliaDavisNews
Cheerful #Trump and #Russia's new ambassador to the U.S., who is under EU sanctions for involvement in deployment of Rus troops in #Ukraine.

lettuceWrap · 11/09/2017 07:38

Jeez. 14 year olds, they knew exactly what they were doing. That poor young boy Sad

TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/09/2017 07:52

NH story very distressing (even if it proves to be a "prank" gone wrong)
Language is everything -->

“Notice how he called these predators ‘young children,'” wrote Helm, “infantilizing the white teens. Conversely, teens like Trayvon Martin are made out to be hulking, menacing adults.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/09/2017 08:06

Similar thing happening with don jr (all on the same continuum of white privilege)

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/blogs/compost/wp/2017/07/13/a-39-year-old-man-is-mysteriously-still-a-kid/

TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/09/2017 08:17

Bannon's got his shit-stirrer out again.

Steve Bannon compares China to 1930s Germany and says US must confront Beijing
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/11/steve-bannon-compares-china-to-1930s-germany-and-says-us-must-confront-beijing?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/09/2017 08:21

False narrative being pushed on twitter that people (black, obviously) are looting in the wake of the hurricanes

Orlando Police
Orlando Police @OrlandoPolice
MEDIA: Reports of looting are inaccurate & unnecessarily put our community on edge. Please refrain from erroneous reporting at this time.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/09/2017 08:32

I know I shouldn't be surprised any more but it never fails to make me ShockHmm

Trump: Hurricanes are helping the Coast Guard improve its 'brand'

"What they've done - I mean, they've gone right into that, and you never know. When you go in there, you don't know if you're going to come out. They are really - if you talk about branding, no brand has improved more than the United States Coast Guard," Trump said.

thehill.com/homenews/administration/350013-trump-hurricanes-are-helping-the-coast-guard-improve-its-brand?amp

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/09/2017 09:22

He doesn't even seem to realise how crass it is to think these things, let alone say them out loud, and as the fucking POTUS no less

lettuceWrap · 11/09/2017 09:34

"Looting", in the aftermath of a natural disaster...

If you have no food/water/medicine/other essentials, and are cut off from help, money or the ability to spend your money- at what point is it survival, not looting?

(Obviously I'm not talking about breaking into a shop and taking a 60inch tv or similar)

TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/09/2017 09:40

One to watch?
(And she wasn't afraid to publicly change her mind about opposing gun control - 2nd linked article)

How Kirsten Gillibrand Is Outsmarting Donald Trump
The Senate's unapologetic feminist is leading the resistance against Trump

She's long argued that until women are equally represented in Congress, the issues that matter to them won't get the attention or resources they deserve. Six years ago, she started Off the Sidelines, a PAC that supports women seeking public office. This year, she says, "a far greater number" of women than ever have reached out – overall, Trump's election has spurred at least 16,000 women and counting to consider a run for office. "The silver lining of the Trump presidency is it is an era of activism, and one where women really want to be heard," Gillibrand says.

www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/how-kirsten-gillibrand-is-outsmarting-donald-trump-w501354

www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-kirsten-gillibrand-off-message-222070

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/09/2017 10:48

She seems great northwest! Thanks for that, hadn't heard of her before.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/09/2017 11:34

Ory Okolloh Mwangi @kenyanpundit
Looks like Alexandra Phillips, former head of media for Nigel Farage + UKIP, is working for Jubilee.

Carole Cadwalladr @carolecadwalla
Nigel Farage's former head of comms outed in Kenya working for Kenyatta in new election alongside Cambridge Analytica. Questions anyone?

In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?
In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/09/2017 12:30

A speculative thread on bannon

Eric Garland @ericgarland
Steve Bannon's 60 Minutes interview will go down as a historical document of political insanity. But check this:

www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/60-minutes-breitbart-steve-bannon-declares-war-on-the-gop/

STEVE BANNON: The Republican establishment is trying to nullify the 2016 election. That's a brutal fact we have to face.

CHARLIE ROSE: The Republican establishment?

STEVE BANNON: The Republican establishment is trying--

CHARLIE ROSE: Wants to nullify the 2016 election?

STEVE BANNON: Trying to nullify the 2016 election. Absolutely.

Bannon is angry at REPUBLICANS for conspiring to nullify the election that put them in the majority.

That doesn't make any sense. Unless.

This is Bannon's Telltale Heart: I believe he expected the GOP to defy the rule of law with impunity and ignore criminal acts.

Sessions recused, McConnell and Ryan cannot stem the tide, and the individual committees are charging ahead. So Bannon's tipping his hand.

He's now proactively accusing the Republicans of doing what the law may, in Bannon's eyes require: the nullification of the election.

Marks v. Stinson is sometimes cited as a potential precedent where if there is a CONSPIRACY to interfere with election process, it's null.

Perhaps Bannon knows of how many people interfered with election process, all expecting the GOP would cover it up. Might explain his nerves.

ADDITIONAL BONUS NUTTERY: Bannon apparently laments the "original sin" of actually assembling an Executive Branch!

STEVE BANNON: In the 48 hours after we won, there's a fundamental decision that was made. You might call it the original sin of the administration. We embraced the establishment. I mean, we totally embraced the establishment. I think in President Trump's mind, or President-elect Trump's mind, in Jared's mind, in the family's mind, I actually agreed with the decision. 'Cause ya had to staff a government. And to be brutally frank. You know, the campaign look, I'd never been on a campaign in my entire life, right? You know, I'm a former investment banker who's a media guy, running a little website. We were-- our whole campaign was a little bit the island of misfit toys. So he looks around and I'm wearing my combat jacket, I haven't shaved, I got, you know, my hair's down to here, and he says he's thinking. "Hey, I've gotta put together a government. I've gotta really staff up something. I need to embrace the establishment."

Hey, he said he intended to destroy "the administrative state." Leaving only Trump and a few conspirators.

That's also known as a coup.

Bannon is ACTUALLY ADMITTING IN PUBLIC that he really wished they didn't form a government, and just ruled with Trump alone.

Dictatorship.

Well, you can understand why Bannon is upset that the coverup didn't happen and that the election might be nullified.

He's in trouble.

If, say, Bannon was key to a conspiracy to interfere with a US election and install a dictatorship, it's kind of a bad look.

Bannon has been called by no committees as a witness thus far.

I'll bet Mueller is saving the best for last.

Addendum: An alternate theory is that Bannon knows nullification is unlikely and the current process will remove Trump regardless.

In that case, stirring up fears about an unprecedented nullification are to simply add chaos to the political discourse. Deza.

The dictatorship analysis still stands; it's the remedy that remains in question.

The rule of law will stand strong.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/09/2017 12:42

www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/sputnik-russian-news-agency-investigation-fbi-090024231.html

Sputnik, the Russian news agency, is under investigation by the FBI

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