Should I have rang non-emergency police. DS1 verbally attacked.

[TwoMummyPigs]

I took DS1 (12) and DS2 (11) to get their school shoes yesterday. We got on the bus and downstairs was busy so went to sit upstairs. We sit at the very back, with my partner.

Two stops later there was a bang on the side of the bus as it pulled up to the stop. I thought someone had been hit as there was shouting. Turns out this young girl had ran at the bus and hit the doors. She was about 12/13 and with a friend of about 14/15 and a boy of the same age.

A few minutes later they come upstairs and are visibly dissapointed that we are at the back.

This girl is SO loud and mouthy. She dramatically runs up the aisle and plonks her self down on the last seat before ours.
She is shouting about how she had stormed out after hitting her dad and screaming at her friend about 'not being allowed to fucking talk!' She was awful. Everyone on the bus were exchanging glances.

Now my sons don't go places without me. They are very polite and reserved.

My DS was sat behind her, facing my gf as the seats at the back face each other.

Whilst she is hollering and shouting my DS and GF are talking about something completely unrelated and DS laughs.
Next thing I know this girl gets up, comes round the seat and leans down into DS and starts shouting "what the fuck are you laighing about?? You know nothing about my life. Who the fuck do you think you are?"

I leaned forwards and put my hand against her shoulder (not pushing her just creating a barrier) and told her to back off and leave him alone.

She then turns on me. She put her face literally ab INCH away from mine and started the same shit with me. My gf stood up and told her to basically piss off and she had brass balls and carried on shouting.

She storms off and sits halfway down the bus and starts shouting about 'people listening into her private conversations'

So I say 'no body wanted to listen to your drama love but you were screaming loud enough for the whole bus to hear and he wasn't laughing at you!"

The bus driver came up and made them go downstairs (the older girl was just laughing the whole time but the older boy did try to control the littler one) He didn't even kick them off the bus!

DS said he was ok but he looked a little shaken and they did say on the way back he hoped she wasn't on the bus home.

Should I have done more? Complained to the driver? Called 101? She was so aggressive and out of order.

Well lesprit
I have been involved-i as on the receiving end and also I have got involved when someone else has been verbally abused or threatened.
It's difficult as you never know how it will end and if someone has a knife,but I can't sit back and watch an attack on someone.
When I was threatened by a man(he threatened to smash my face in)only one person stood up for me. It was a packed bus.
If I see anything bad happening to someone else I will say something.
Im.sick to death of it to be honest but I'm also sick to death of my bus journies ring a nightmare

I just want to sit and read or browse the net for my journey. Not have someone smoking cannabis behind me or starting a row on someone across the way.

Many people just live in their own little bubble, not giving a flying fuck what happens to other people...it's called bystander apathy, I call it cowardice.

My dp worries about me as I always say something. I can't help it. People just going around doing what the fuck they like with no consequences.

No, it's called not getting involved in other peoples shit and making everything worse.

If someone is bringing THEIR shit into your space as happened with this girl then what the hell are people supposed to do?? This girl was the aggressor, not the other way round. Sometimes you have to stand up for your self or other people, well you should.

The girl was not threatening the OP (as I read it antwat)

If someone is bringing THEIR shit into your space as happened with this girl then what the hell are people supposed to do?

Remove themselves, like any normal person. Not engage and make the situation worse.
Does it really need to be said?

See, victim blaming!! The OP's son is being ridiculed by poster above for potentially being afraid of a 12 yr old shouting at him. So all people who are bullied should just suck it up?? Jesus fucking christ!!!

Lesprit...

So, what if you witnesed someone being bullied, say an elderly woman getting grief off some gobby boys....you wouldn't intervene?? You'd just 'not engage and make the situation worse'.......

@Walkingdead11 I think you need to calm down, step back and get back to the point of the thread. No one has said that it was OP or her son's fault that this incident happened.

OP it is sad that it happened, but there are people like this out there. You and your kids will come into contact with them many times in life. An anonymous girl on a bus won't get you far in terms of a complaint. I've been physically attacked before by a girl who mistook me for someone else, no actual damage done but I was shaken. I went to the police but without any knowledge about who she was, it was logged, some local CCTV reviewed but it couldn't go any further.

If it makes you feel better then go ahead and ring them, but I highly doubt anything will come of it. I'd focus on your son tbh, if he was really shaken up, perhaps he may need some counselling to move past this?

So, what if you witnesed someone being bullied, say an elderly woman getting grief off some gobby boys....you wouldn't intervene?? You'd just 'not engage and make the situation worse'

I would assist the woman in removing herself from the situation. Like a normal person. I wouldn't start arguing with children like you, and OP.

So the OP should have removed themselves from the bus..because a teenage girl thinks she has the right to bully and intimidate people....gosh, I wonder why society is in such a pickle. I'll remember that for the next time I witness such an event, I'll tell the Asian woman I stuck up for once to remove herself from the man racially abusing her; then I'll tell the young woman being verbally abused by her boyfriend to simply remove herself from the situation....and when that drunk man was being verbally abusive to the entire bus I clearly should have told the entire bus population to remove themselves.......you know, like any normal person would......😂

I don't get involved in other peoples situations very often, seen and heard too many times someone trying to do the right thing get lamped in the face or mugged, or abused themselves.

Sad but thats the world we live in.

As someone earlier said, there is cctv on busses. I think it is important to register the offence. And yes there was an offence - a possible charge of public affray.

CCTV will put the girl of the police radar. So if her behaviour escalates they have a picture. She may already be known to them.

OP you are not being unreasonable but if you didn't have the driver name, date, time and bus registration, it might be harder to pinpoint the correct cctv footage.

So the OP should have removed themselves from the bus

Should have gone downstairs, yes.

Lesprit

You are simply unbelievable! I hope to god that you are never in need of assistance and I hope you experience a basic level of humanity from good citizens, of which you are clearly not.

What crime would you say has been committed?

I think you and your partner gave as good as you got. Two adults physically imposing on a kid as well as shouting at her...

Soooo had enough of this thread. Anyway, I've instructed my teenage son that it's perfectly acceptable to shout and intimidate members of the public on buses etc and that if an adult tells him off than it's actually them who are in the wrong, well because he's a kid, a 5 foot 10 kid but still just a kid. I'm sure he's going to have a hoot if a time shouting, threatening and intimidating, maybe even do it to s same age girl...I almost want to go along and see how it goes.............😊

@Walkingdead11 can you please quote a single post that states it was okay for the girl to start shouting abuse and intimidating people?

Lesprit.
Bus you are unbelievable

People like you are one of the wimps who didn't even turn around when a man threatened me gonna crowded bus!
I understand the society we live in males people afraid to intervene but there are other things that can be done-ring police (if necessary )or inform driver.
Not expect people to remove themselves!!

Yes you are unbelievable *

Hey, if you want to have aggressive altercations with children on buses, have at it. Classy AF.
I, like anyone who isn't a total idiot, would just leave the situation.

Try it. Like now, would be good?

Sometimes walking away IS the best course of action if the situation is going to escalate. It's not victim blaming or anyting like that. At that point, it's not even relevant whonis at fault, descalate! Hell, we even get taught that in officer safety training to disengage, reassess then come up with alternative.

I will not let kids speak to me or abuse others on the bus and not say anything.
I sit quietly travelling to work but if someone is abusive I will most likely say something.
Those who sit while a woman is being abused look like cunts.