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Should I have rang non-emergency police. DS1 verbally attacked.

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TwoMummyPigs · 31/08/2017 16:18

I took DS1 (12) and DS2 (11) to get their school shoes yesterday. We got on the bus and downstairs was busy so went to sit upstairs. We sit at the very back, with my partner.

Two stops later there was a bang on the side of the bus as it pulled up to the stop. I thought someone had been hit as there was shouting. Turns out this young girl had ran at the bus and hit the doors. She was about 12/13 and with a friend of about 14/15 and a boy of the same age.

A few minutes later they come upstairs and are visibly dissapointed that we are at the back.

This girl is SO loud and mouthy. She dramatically runs up the aisle and plonks her self down on the last seat before ours.
She is shouting about how she had stormed out after hitting her dad Hmm and screaming at her friend about 'not being allowed to fucking talk!' She was awful. Everyone on the bus were exchanging glances.

Now my sons don't go places without me. They are very polite and reserved.

My DS was sat behind her, facing my gf as the seats at the back face each other.

Whilst she is hollering and shouting my DS and GF are talking about something completely unrelated and DS laughs.
Next thing I know this girl gets up, comes round the seat and leans down into DS and starts shouting "what the fuck are you laighing about?? You know nothing about my life. Who the fuck do you think you are?"

I leaned forwards and put my hand against her shoulder (not pushing her just creating a barrier) and told her to back off and leave him alone.

She then turns on me. She put her face literally ab INCH away from mine and started the same shit with me. My gf stood up and told her to basically piss off and she had brass balls and carried on shouting.

She storms off and sits halfway down the bus and starts shouting about 'people listening into her private conversations'

So I say 'no body wanted to listen to your drama love but you were screaming loud enough for the whole bus to hear and he wasn't laughing at you!"

The bus driver came up and made them go downstairs (the older girl was just laughing the whole time but the older boy did try to control the littler one) He didn't even kick them off the bus!

DS said he was ok but he looked a little shaken and they did say on the way back he hoped she wasn't on the bus home.

Should I have done more? Complained to the driver? Called 101? She was so aggressive and out of order.

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LespritDescalier · 04/09/2017 21:42

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Threenme · 04/09/2017 21:53

Lespirit for someone so who wouldn't get involved you're very opinionated! I'm also laughing having read your posts at you being the person who gets to decide what's "classy AF"

LespritDescalier · 04/09/2017 21:54

Did you not realise that you can have opinions without getting into fights in public? It's quite possible, I assure you.

Threenme · 04/09/2017 22:12

I've managed it for many years, however someone screaming in my face would not constitute me getting in a fight! It would constitute me defending my right not to be abused!

Threenme · 04/09/2017 22:16

Yesterday 13:18 jjbutt

Youir DS you say is 12, same age as the girl.He daren't go places on his own now because a girl of his own age shouted at him??

Also I've reported this it's so nasty and victim blaming. There are 12 year old girls that are very aggressive. Added to the fact I've lost count of the number of times dh has told ds "you don't hit girls ever"- lots of boys are just not programmed to know how defend themselves against girls.

BrilliantDarling · 04/09/2017 22:23

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LespritDescalier · 04/09/2017 22:23

WHICH IS THE BEST ADVICE IS TO LEAVE.

Honestly, try engaging your brain, should said thing exist.

Threenme · 04/09/2017 22:26

Yes all aggressive ppl are happy to let their victim remove themselves from the situation they're usually nice reasonable ppl

BrilliantDarling · 04/09/2017 22:28

Lesprit.
People who just sit there look like weak cowards. I could not just sit there and look the other way while someone was being attacked.
If that makes me look a big cunt then so be it!

LespritDescalier · 04/09/2017 22:31

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Threenme · 04/09/2017 22:35

Iespirit I'm removing myself because I can't face arguing with someone that waffles such tripe and can't see reason!
Aren't I just the non-cuntyish cunt!!!

BrilliantDarling · 04/09/2017 22:37

What would you do Lesprit if you were being attacked ?
Do you think you would be grateful if somebody came and helped you?

BrilliantDarling · 04/09/2017 22:39

Please tell me what you would have done if you were in the Op's position?

kali110 · 05/09/2017 02:26

les are you not able to respond to people without resorting to insults?

Walkingdead11 · 05/09/2017 08:33

Kali, no she isn't. She's the worst kind of human, the one that would blame the victim for not removing themselves from a situation, the one that would stand by and let a woman be sexually assaulted probably with the attitude of 'not my problem '. Thankfully there are decent people out there who will protect others and themselves.

Nickynacky...the fact is that sometimes de-escalation does not always work..say a woman is being sexually harrassed. It is very common for men in these situations to become even more aggressive when ignored. It is legal and acceptable to defend yourself within reasonable boundaries. You've already stated that the police don't take these incidents all that seriously so you surely must accept that people will therefore take matters into their own hands, it is human nature to want to protect others, I imagine that's a primary reason you joined the force? I can and will protect myself and others from those people who seek to cause trouble and intimidate others because I am a decent human being.

Ledkr · 05/09/2017 08:56

These type of kids are everywhere imo.
My daughter won't even go into town after being verbally and physically assaulted for literally no reason. Kids admitted that to police!
Some of the attack was filmed for good old social media and you can see my dd just sitting there and saying "I don't even know who you are so why are you doing this?"

Ledkr · 05/09/2017 08:58

Nobody helped her either!
I would have and glad to see here that others might have.

Walkingdead11 · 05/09/2017 09:00

When the perpetrators get more sympathy than the victims is when you know society is in trouble.

flumpybear · 05/09/2017 09:09

Two you did the right thing - I'd have shoved her away (albeit wrong of me if I had!) but no, she was abusive, aggressive and offensive

Honestly, sharing her stupid life dramas and being so up her own arse she thinks everyone is listening or even caring - stupid little girl!

I suspect the police wouldn't do much but you could ask them us company if they have driver cameras

LespritDescalier · 05/09/2017 09:41

Please tell me what you would have done if you were in the Op's position?

I would have gone downstairs on the bus, with my children. So would anyone with half a brain.

Fucking hilarious though that I'm worse than Hitler because I don't get into fights with children on buses! What kind of world do you people live in? Thankfully not the same one I do.

LespritDescalier · 05/09/2017 09:43

My daughter won't even go into town after being verbally and physically assaulted for literally no reason. Kids admitted that to police!

I would have gone to her and helped her to remove herself from the situation.
Which would be a lot more useful to your kid than fighting with the kids abusing her, and making it worse for her, me and them. I'd have been a lot more use than these idiots frothing about how tough they are and how they would give a child a shove Hmm

Walkingdead11 · 05/09/2017 09:50

Lesprit

You are failing, quite miserably, to understand that some children can be very intimidating and by infantilising them you are saying that they cannot harm.....they do and they can. Let's just say you remove yourself and your child from situation and they dont allow you to pass? What would you do then? How about, instead of looking at the behaviour of the victims, you look at the behaviour of the aggressor? You know, if you can come down from your high horse......

LespritDescalier · 05/09/2017 09:53

No, you are failing to remember that you are allegedly an adult. Try acting like one. And not the Eastenders type one you sound like. Hmm

LornaMumsnet · 05/09/2017 10:01

Ahem

Can we have a bit of peace and love, please?

Walkingdead11 · 05/09/2017 10:20

Lesprit,

Oh dear, you have revealed yourself as the arse tit of the snob you are. You quite clearly have no idea what life is like for the masses, enjoy your ivory tower existence.