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Should I have rang non-emergency police. DS1 verbally attacked.

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TwoMummyPigs · 31/08/2017 16:18

I took DS1 (12) and DS2 (11) to get their school shoes yesterday. We got on the bus and downstairs was busy so went to sit upstairs. We sit at the very back, with my partner.

Two stops later there was a bang on the side of the bus as it pulled up to the stop. I thought someone had been hit as there was shouting. Turns out this young girl had ran at the bus and hit the doors. She was about 12/13 and with a friend of about 14/15 and a boy of the same age.

A few minutes later they come upstairs and are visibly dissapointed that we are at the back.

This girl is SO loud and mouthy. She dramatically runs up the aisle and plonks her self down on the last seat before ours.
She is shouting about how she had stormed out after hitting her dad Hmm and screaming at her friend about 'not being allowed to fucking talk!' She was awful. Everyone on the bus were exchanging glances.

Now my sons don't go places without me. They are very polite and reserved.

My DS was sat behind her, facing my gf as the seats at the back face each other.

Whilst she is hollering and shouting my DS and GF are talking about something completely unrelated and DS laughs.
Next thing I know this girl gets up, comes round the seat and leans down into DS and starts shouting "what the fuck are you laighing about?? You know nothing about my life. Who the fuck do you think you are?"

I leaned forwards and put my hand against her shoulder (not pushing her just creating a barrier) and told her to back off and leave him alone.

She then turns on me. She put her face literally ab INCH away from mine and started the same shit with me. My gf stood up and told her to basically piss off and she had brass balls and carried on shouting.

She storms off and sits halfway down the bus and starts shouting about 'people listening into her private conversations'

So I say 'no body wanted to listen to your drama love but you were screaming loud enough for the whole bus to hear and he wasn't laughing at you!"

The bus driver came up and made them go downstairs (the older girl was just laughing the whole time but the older boy did try to control the littler one) He didn't even kick them off the bus!

DS said he was ok but he looked a little shaken and they did say on the way back he hoped she wasn't on the bus home.

Should I have done more? Complained to the driver? Called 101? She was so aggressive and out of order.

OP posts:
Nicknacky · 05/09/2017 15:06

I think there was a few posters who had posts removed last night for name calling. Thee is no need for that at all, we are all adults.

But I did specifically refer to you calling a poster an arse hole, yes.

kali110 · 05/09/2017 15:08

les yes has had very offensive posts removed.

Walkingdead11 · 05/09/2017 15:11

So you only call out those people who are in disagreement with you Nicky?? Hardly fair minded is it?

kali110 · 05/09/2017 15:15

I don't really disagree with some of what nicky is saying.
I can't imAgine it's easy in thAt job!
It sometimes is better to walk away and get help, however i have stepped in and helped someone being threatened.
I dont know if i'd do it again though.

Nicknacky · 05/09/2017 15:19

I was working last night when the argument was ongoing and I remember at least two posters name calling, one being Les. If I hadn't been busy I would have said to them to knock it off but by the time I came back the posts had been deleted.

But I was here when you swore so told you it was unnecessary. Is that ok with you now?!

kali110 · 05/09/2017 15:21

Anyname calling is wrong, however some of the names directed towards walking from one poster have been disgusting, im glad theyve been removed.

LairyMcClary · 05/09/2017 15:31

Several people have had posts removed, including the one trying to blame everyone else.
Aren't you all going a bit over the top?

It's not ok for children to be aggressive and threatening on buses. Neither is it ok for adults to join in and further the problem. It is never ok for adults to touch or threaten children, even if those children are being anti-social.
The much earlier posts were correct though, police would not have been able to do anything about this incident and would not be very interested in it.

kali110 · 05/09/2017 15:38

LairyMcClary
I agree that unfortunately i don't think the police could do anything.
Do you think that its a case of miscommunication? Some people are told to ring the police or 101 for things like this when really there isn't much they can do?
Ive been threatened on the bus twice very badly And didn't report it as i didnt think there was much to be done!

Walkingdead11 · 05/09/2017 15:39

I wasn't on here last night Nicky but my point remains clear, you are pointing at me because you disagree with my stance. That is not fair minded. Not once have you had a go at Lesprit who has said appalling things to several people.

Nicknacky · 05/09/2017 15:42

No as I have explained I said to you to stop as I was on here at the same time. It's not up to me to retrospectily give posters into a row over things they said after mumsnet have dealt with it . And frankly I read quickly and can't remember who said what, just noticed name calling!

Walkingdead11 · 05/09/2017 15:43

I think it's fairly obvious that the police will not get involved in these types of altercations...ultimately this girl will square up to the wrong person eventually, that is a fact of life. If people do want to report they should, without other people minimising or putting the onus of blame onto the victim.

LairyMcClary · 05/09/2017 15:49

I think it's fairly obvious that the police will not get involved in these types of altercations

But you have spent pages berating (very rudely) posters who said that, and called them some horrible names for it?!

kali110 · 05/09/2017 15:54

Walkingdead11
nick may not have noticed the offensive comments, mnet does delete quick.

Walkingdead11 · 05/09/2017 15:56

I didn't say it was right that the police won't get involved, they should in my view. Sadly we now live in a world where this kind of behaviour is ten a penny and the victims get called out on their behavior and not the perpetrator. That is clearly wrong. But yes, just focus on my rudeness, that's fine 😉

LairyMcClary · 05/09/2017 15:58

But you are in agreement then with the poster that you called "the worst type of person" and a "bigot" and an "arsehole" for saying what you have also said?

Nicknacky · 05/09/2017 16:02

kali Yes I read the posts before they got deleted.

Walkingdead11 · 05/09/2017 16:09

No I haven't?? In no way have I agreed with that poster?? That poster has said the OP are just as bad for arguing with a child, not true. And that people should just walk away and not get involved. I have most definitely not agreed with that.

ForeverLivingMyArse · 05/09/2017 16:15

Poor girl. Clearly not a happy child.

It was an upsetting incident, they happen.

LairyMcClary · 05/09/2017 16:35

No I haven't?? In no way have I agreed with that poster??

You have, you said the exact same thing!

That poster has said the OP are just as bad for arguing with a child, not true

actually that was a different poster entirely, if you look. Perhaps you owe someone an apology?

Walkingdead11 · 05/09/2017 17:03

Are you actually kidding?? Have you seen what that poster has said to me and others??

Threenme · 05/09/2017 18:14

I've been thinking about this a lot. The police probably wouldn't get involved but they should. This boy had a parent ready to defend them, the next victim might not, eventually it will deteriorate into violence. I feel for the poor child subjected to that. I also stand by my earlier point the aggressor does rarely offer a the person they are abusing an escape route.

LairyMcClary · 05/09/2017 19:36

Um yes I did. After you started it.

Walkingdead11 · 05/09/2017 19:42

After I started it...fucking hell are we back at school? Wanna meet for a fight outside the bike sheds? Grin

LairyMcClary · 05/09/2017 19:53

God no, I'm not in this fight, impartial observer. But you misattributed a comment from one poster to another poster, and then were very rude to him/her about it. But you got the wrong poster initially, which is waht started off all the silliness and name-calling.
I'd be feeling a little Blush if I were you, that's all!

Walkingdead11 · 05/09/2017 19:56

Well I don't...I stand by all my comments. The ones who should be ashamed are those who accused the OP of being as bad as the girl....oh and those who don't get involved in other peoples troubles.....

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