But plenty of men think a girl being drunk and 'leading them on' is fair game. They don't think they are rapists because they don't think it's rape if she's into it one minute then a bit out of it the next.
Or don't care?
Or they think that if she gets served in a club they don't need to check her age or if she's sure she wants to have sex with them.
Because it means they can get away with it/justify it to themselves?
Or they think that if she gets into bed with them then anything goes. Because that's what they see in porn. They don't think they need consent for different sex acts or that they need consent for sex without contraception.
Or they don't give a shit?
They don't think they need consent to be pushy with their girlfriends. they think that a girl friend owes them sex and the don't see coersing her into it as rape. They see 'persuading' her into sex she doesn't want as part of the 'game' and how she likes to 'tease' him.
Yep, because women are less.
So no ofcourse the average boy doesn't need taught not to go and join a sex trafficking group. But he dies need taught all of the above amounts to rape, and he can be prosecuted for. But is highly unlikely.
Gonegonegone sorry for picking out big chunks of your post. It's not that I disagree, it just gets me thinking.
I think teaching consent as is often advocated supports the idea that it's confusing when I do not believe it is. I think it's much more about the fact men don't think they need it. Yes they can be prosecuted but of all the sexual assaults that happen, how many are actually successfully prosecuted?
The fact is there is little consequence for men. All those things listed, men are quite capable of understanding. It suits them not to.
The issue is less about consent as a concept I think and more about how men value women.
NAMALT is so tedious. How many men are part of the solution? Violence against women doesn't happen in a bubble. It's part of our culture.