We're going to have to call a halt to Brexit aren't we?

[Hufflepug]

Lukewarm Remain voter here. Understand that the Government has to listen to 'the will of the people' and all that.

But for the love of God, now that it's clear what absolute economic suicide we're committing surely we've got to put a halt to it whilst the govt and the opposition work out what the fuck's going on!

AIBU

And no we don't need to halt Brexit ffs.

(Not Tip Top)

It's the poor people who voted with the multi millionaires farage, Boris and Davis who still even now insist everything will be fine who make me laugh the most.
Matthew Parrish article was good.

Yes I know Thegirlinthefireplace and I understand your frustration as I feel it too. But from where I'm sitting it is a positive thing if people change their mind in the light of new information, both campaigns were really shit and if some people need to blame the Remain campaign then so be it as I think you take the risk of putting people off rethinking their opinions and make them more entrenched in their original.

The nasty comments aimed at leave voters throughout the campaign were disgusting.
The hatred and malice displayed wiped away any little sympathy I had for remain voters.

user not much point in property prices coming down if people don't have jobs to pay for them. And have you any idea what happens to the market and first time buyers when there's a crash?

Ireland's been through it. Banks don't lend, people don't sell, builders don't build, buying becomes impossible, the cost of renting sky rockets, homelessness increases.

And if anyone accuses me of scare mongering, take a look at rent prices and homelessness levels in Dublin right now.

Why? You got the result that you wanted, then even if you didn't vote for it yourself ?

I'm annoyed that I was taken in by the Remain campaign, that's why. But it's okay because things have worked out for the best.

The hatred and malice displayed wiped away any little sympathy I had for remain voters

Remain voters are no more a homogenous mass than leave voters.....

And you know this because ?

Because I know that in a couple of years we will no longer be burdened by the failing EU.

Well Laurie people could not afford to buy before anyway especially in the southeast where house prices were rising at an unsustainable amount weekly and greedy landlords saw it as an opportunity to push rents sky high as no one could afford to buy anymore.
If leaving the Eu has helped control this then it can only be a good thing.
And sorry but I've not seen all these supposed job losses?
Yes we may struggle for a while we were warned of this but any change causes a transition process and it takes time to adjust but any whiff of issues and the remainers can't wait to jump on the we are all doomed bandwagon.

The extent of the Cabinet disarray worries me.

things have worked out for the best

Staggering naivety

It will be fine if you're rich.

They were saying it would be fine for the middle men in the company - those on say 70/80k like DH rather than say 150k plus.

In what way is the EU failing ?

I am getting ready to go to work so I can't hash it all out right now, but I will tonight.

I agree it's good to try to follow people's actual arguments, as pp said, but it's hard when you have 'user+numbers' names all over the place. Why don't they change to proper names?

user you clearly don't understand.

Post crash in Ireland much fewer people could afford to buy, because the banks wouldn't give them mortgages. And rents sky rocketed. About 95% of people were much worse off than they had been.

The rich landlords creamed it. What they couldn't sell, they rented at astronomical rates.

The housing market was always going to crash at some point, it's not sustainable in the south east.

I say that as someone for whom being in negative equity is a real possibility if there is a crash. We just bought a little flat in London. Totally not a long term home but we'll manage if we must.

Hmmm - well they won't be paying out the £2.5Bn or whatever it was to Cornwall and the South West, and however much else to all the other parts of the UK that got huge amounts of funding and investment, so they will be saving all that.

Yes, and they still have a big, big hole.

Remaining anchor country - you mean France -already sorted with Macron- and Germany - likely to continue with Merkel probably winning the upcoming election?

Unlikely to be a problem.

It's worth noting here that no one really took Brexit seriously. It's impossible to tell how member states will react to Britain's departure. Do you disagree that the EU has a stake in making this difficult to prevent future states from leaving?

Higher house prices than ever before, (TRIPLE what they were 40 years ago if you take inflation into account, and no-one can afford to buy,) wages half what they were pre EU, 8 out of 10 new businesses fail in the first year, uni fees are exorbitant beyond belief, (leaving many of our young folk 40K plus in debt, and it's set to rise further to accommodate the pension shortfall,) many peoples pensions are going to be worth nothing, women can't afford to stay at home with their kids anymore, (but they can't afford childcare either,) communities are fractured as people have to leave homes as they can't afford the mortgage due to losing their job so they have to move, private rents are very high and take up almost 50% of some peoples incomes, there are fewer police and nurses than ever before, every professional (and none professional) job is stressful due to cutbacks causing staff shortages, doctors surgeries are at breaking point, schools are rammed and many kids cannot get even into the school that is in their catchment areas, and there is no longer any such thing as a job for life.

This sort of stupidity is really breathtaking. The EU is responsible for none of the above. These are the results of our own governments' ideologies and policies.