We're going to have to call a halt to Brexit aren't we?

[Hufflepug]

Lukewarm Remain voter here. Understand that the Government has to listen to 'the will of the people' and all that.

But for the love of God, now that it's clear what absolute economic suicide we're committing surely we've got to put a halt to it whilst the govt and the opposition work out what the fuck's going on!

AIBU

I keep hoping that common sense will kick in when negotiations are clearly not working. It will be an utter disaster.

Thecatfromjapan I certainly don't recognise the picture you paint of Britian pre EU. The sixties were pretty good if I remember rightly - good food was plentiful. You could walk in and out of jobs because there was so much work available, if you didn't like one, you just walked away and found another straight away. Travel abroad to France and Spain was simple, and no, you didn't need a visa, as 'remainers' will have you believe we will have to post EU, because 'that is how it used to be'. (We just used passports, as now.) Mind you, instead of a RO-RO ferry, the car was winched aboard in a cargo net, because time and technology change, and that is just how it was done then. Yes, a lot of things were expensive, but that was true right through until the nineties, when, due to technological advances, manufacturing became cheaper. This has nothing to do with the EU. A lot of people who don't remember the UK pre EU just seem so scared by Brexit, but the EU is not a safety blanket, it is a behemoth. Possible this is why it is mostly older people who voted for brexit, because they can remember a time before it, and won't go with the lie that things are better now, and pre EU was like the dark ages.

Leave voter here and I regret it hugely. I personally know three other leave voters who feel the same way as me. It took a really long time to admit, because I was embarrassed. I didn't understand about Euratom, and how the customs union works etc. I'm angry with the remain camp for getting the tone so wrong and placing all the emphasis on the economic suicide of leaving rather than the benefits of the EU.

Whys MN not put this thread in the eu ref topic? Whilst I appreciate remainers are getting restless for new blood to bait, hence the aibu, request to have it moved please MN.

Was there a cut off point after which we aren't allowed to discuss it or start a new thread? I see endless posts on here about the same issues (parent and child spaces, parking, whether I'm allowed to wear white to a fucking wedding). This one subject (about the most significant political event of the past 40 years) should apparently be confined to one thread.

The fact that the EU is making it as difficult and expensive as possible to leave their cabal is an indictment of the EU, not the leave vote.

BeeBee high house prices have nothing to do with being in or out of the EU. Women no longer being able to stay at home yo look after children is nothing to do with the EU either - this is 2017, most of us want to work. Student debt alao has nothing to do with EU membership. There are high house prices, student debt and working women in Australia, in the USA and in Canada.

I live in a part of the country which is absolutely dependent on labour from other parts of the EU. There are too many jobs and not enough people. Without EU labour our hospitals and care homes will be doomed.

I voted remain and still believe it's economic suicide to leave but accept that it will happen. I just fear for the future of the country when it does.

Jesus wept minthegarp take some responsibility and be angry with yourself for doing no research before voting.

"This one subject (about the most significant political event of the past 40 years) should apparently be confined to one thread."

Theres a whole section for it and plenty who know exactly how this will all end and how stupid leave voters are. Whatever.

Genuine question but what are people scared is going to happen?

I voted remain but sort of feel not much is going to change. It's difficult to sort the scaremongering from the reality, I guess because really no one actually knows what's going to happen.

DH works for an asset managers (in IT, not an AM himself) and they seem quite confident all will basically be fine.

lets face it things can't get much fucking worse

Ithat is utterly pig-shit stupid. Incredible stuff.

Mindthegarp I think it's important that you and friends who regret your vote speak out loudly. Write to your mp. challenge. Your not alone.

Jesus wept minthegarp take some responsibility and be angry with yourself for doing no research before voting.

Whilst I get how you feel saying this, if people who say they regret their decision get attacked for saying it then people will become more entrenched in their views and that is not good for anyone. It's really hard to say you think you made the wrong decision on something with massive implications and I think to some extent it's human nature to look for a scapgoat - personally I have no issue with Cameron being that, he deserves it.

YANBUIt's all very well saying we paid in more than we got back when we're enjoying the benefits of being in it but surely when we lose those benefits the figures won't sound do rosy. Job losses are going to be huge. Job losses themselves and the lack of ability to work in Europe. I'm particularly worried about food prices on top. No farm subsidies and benefits taken away are surely going to be handed down to the consumer. In France at the moment and the prices are insane thanks to the crappy pound. Paying these sorts of prices normally would cripplevus and we're not poor. We had it good. We weren't given the correct info to make an informed decision. I fear there are going to be a lot of angry people when the shit hits the fan and Brexit starts to bite. But it will be too late then. They'll royally screw us financially if we ask to come back in. None of the rich will feel it, they'll be fine either way.

I'm angry with the remain camp for getting the tone so wrong and placing all the emphasis on the economic suicide of leaving rather than the benefits of the EU

Why not take some responsibility for how you voted instead of blaming the other camp?
I certainly did a lot of research before voting as I was undecided, but on a basic level, I could see that it would be an economic disaster (the process of leaving). Anyone would have to be incredibly naive to think we could smoothly transition from being in the EU to not.

We have little as a country to offer worldwide to sustain our economy without the EU, our tax system is based on being in the EU and would require adjustment, being in the EU isn't just about trading - it's about medicines, scientific research, safety standards etc etc.

Untangling that will take years simply because it's not all known - civil servants are busy trying to find out how we are related to the EU in totality.

As for the good old days pre EU - times have changed since then. Significantly so. We will not be going back to those days.

There should have been built in a reconsideration of the nature of our relationship with the EU, but a wholesale removal is folly.

As for "a vote is a vote". Well the referendum had different legal status to other elections. Plus the government of the day can be removed - as Theresa May did to call a general election.

DH works for an asset managers (in IT, not an AM himself) and they seem quite confident all will basically be fine

It will be fine if you're rich.

A lot of IT jobs are going, ditto being able to contract or work in Europe,many companies are tightening their belts as regards IT as other areas post Brexit will be the priority, banks are moving out of London, ditto European centres based in London as reported yesterday. A major French call centre near us( not London)is going, others will surely follow. The rest of Europe must be rubbing their hands in glee.

It will be fine if you're rich.

I'm not rich. It will be fine.

All the hysterics on this thread is (while slightly concerned about how delusional people are) laughable.

Mirabelle ive not attacked her for changing her position. My exasperation was with her blaming the remain camp! If she had simply said she changed her mind and regrets her vote she would have had full respect.

Voted leave don't regret one bit.
Things are happening but remainers can't wait to be the voice of doom.
One of the most positive aspects so far is the housing market...
Property was over priced and landlords were lining there pockets even more,in the southeast it was impossible to get a foot on the property ladder for most normal hardworking people.
Hopefully we can control our borders now, and have more say in running our country.

The rest of Europe must be rubbing their hands in glee

No, they are trying to figure out how they'll plug the hole left by the UK and creating as much theatre as possible to dissuade future departures from the remaining anchor countries.

IQ bypass alert ^^

This kind of comment isn't particularly helpful, I don't think.

Not helpful, no, but neither is all the sanctimonious bullshit from remainers either (or their vitriol at leave voters).

I voted Remain and I sorely regret it; I was wrong and I should have voted leave.

What I'm afraid of is job losses, therefore tax revenue down, knock on effect on all our public services and social welfare, plus rapidly increasing cost of goods and services.

All that coming together is not going to be pretty.

Those who pushed the leave agenda in the Tory party don't give a shit about any of that, because they're sufficiently rich for it not to be a problem. It's just a political game to them.