CFN patio doors onto my private garden thread #3

[Wattyyyy]

Okay I thought I'd start this for when they inevitably show their faces!!

Sorry all the threads have different titles

I have a slight update - I managed to catch the nice neighbour at the other side (I think he'd heard the commotion and was loitering about waiting for me )

He was gobsmacked! Apparently he's lived here for thirty years and has never heard anything like it. I told him I'd keep him updated and he asked if i wanted to come in for a cup of tea, I politely declined hahahah. Glad I now have a nice normal neighbour on my side!

Are the planning people going to contact them?

Listed/not listed, building regs or no building regs, you can't just put a set of patio doors into a wall abutting your neighbour's garden! The End.

Something similar happened to us years ago when an air vent in a wall at the bottom of our garden was replaced with a window while we were at work (and their builders would have climbed over a flat roof to access our garden). We got our own builder to brick it back up from our side. Still makes me cross.

Spookle's diagram from thread #2

oliversmumsarmy ....not so....i said already we looked at a CatergoryA (scotland) and the EA/sols and vendors were all very coy obstructive liars maybe and it was only research done by me that revealed the facts

Sadly for them, the people who out bid us on the closing date were not so sensible lucky and had quite the nasty surprise once planning got in contact.

I wouldn't just rely on Planning, like a previous poster said you need legal advice and you need to speak to whoever manages your Freehold as they are also in breach of their lease. I wouldn't wait for them to come home I would be pursuing every avenue available to ensure they stop work, repair all damage and compensate you.

I agree with the pp who suggested contacting the solicitor who did your conveyancing. A letter to cfn saying they have no access to your garden is important at this stage.

Will the dodgy builders be fined or prosecuted or is the full responsibility with the neighbours?

Why won't they come back yet?? We need answers to their madness!!!

Don't touch anything includes cable ties on door handles. Apart from anything else, if they want to open the door a cable tie won't stop them. If you do somthing else and manage to make the doors unopanable and there is a fire you probably don't want to be the reason they can't escape... your far too nice for that!

Yes don't approach them yourself at the moment. After this is all over you'll have to live next to them and their kitchen window will overlook your garden. It will become excruciating in future if you get into a war with them (even though you have done nothing wrong at all).

Looks like the C in CFN might switch from cheeky to criminal.

Thanks Banff

Barry it's our fucking house

That is brilliant, pure gold. Gave me a right laugh.

Checking in. Thrilled so far.
But this thread is using up my monthly data allowance totally worth it

Have you phoned your insurers?

Planners are going to be looking at things from their agenda, which does overlap with yours, but not entirely.

I'm guessing your agenda is going to be to check structural stability of the building, re-securing your garden, getting your garden back into a fully useable state i.e. clearing/ getting all the building stuff cleared.

The planners would no doubt have everything left exactly as is whilst they have numerous meetings and discussions. But that significantly impacts on your ability to have full enjoyment and use of your garden - this is where insurers will be able to help and no doubt get legal advise to cover your needs being met as well as the enforcement needs.

@IloveBanff

Thank your for re posting the diagram.

Surely the OP needs to tell them that the garden belongs exclusively to her and they have no right of access
Perhaps a solicitors letter is needed to advise them

I agree that it would probably be a good idea to prevent access into your garden by blocking the doors. As they are outward opening you wouldn't even have to touch the doors, which are technically their property, just put something very heavy a fraction of an inch in front of the doors. Maybe put up a sign on the glass saying "Private garden. No access except by prior agreement with owner." I would be slightly worried about the builders coming back and clearing everything, including the bit of original brickwork.

I know they said don't touch anything but they probably didn't say anything about putting chalk outlines around all the mess so you should definitely do that.

I'm a crying - Barry and Julie (I've decided) are now planning their escape to live underground lives in Puerto Rico.

Blatant placemark

You're very welcome rosietosey

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woofwoofmoowoof that is similar to what happened to neighbour across road in our last house. The building was 4 flats. All with private gardens. Upstairs flats had a large side garden. But the bottom flat was allowed access to walk round the garden of upstairs flat to put out bins, window cleaner and coal deliveries. (Built in 1930's) etc.
One of the upstairs flats built a 2 storey extension cutting of access to neighbour below who was an elderly woman. The buildr/owner told her she was wrong he did not have to give her access.
The upstairs flat did the build himself as he was a builder. The original plans whichever were passed showed an access path still round new building, but he built it without one. Don't know how but it got a completion certificate and he then sold it. (All happened before we moved in)
New owners then tried to sell 5 years later , at which point the access and not built to plans was discovered. They couldn't sell flat. That was about 7 years ago and they are having to change the current garage and utility room into a study and an access path/pend before they can try and sell again. So devaluing their property so they can move.

So CFN's of some description have been around for years !

Do not cable tie the doors together ffs. At present, you have the moral and legal high ground. If they use the doors you can have then arrested for trespassing. If you start doing things like that it will look aggressive. You have no idea of the neighbours motivations. They could just be that stupid. I know you are angry, but if they turn up with a bunch of flowers and a grovelling apology, and an explanation of why they thought the garden was also theirs, you will feel a bit shit. Just go through the proper channels.