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Neighbour new door private garden thread #2

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Wattyyyy · 27/07/2017 20:25

Couldn't remember the title of the last one so thought that'd do!

No sign of them at all, went out and looked through and all the lights are off, definitely not in. WTF IS GOING ON????

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64PooLane · 28/07/2017 09:49

I fully expect an unnecessarily large team of planning people to turn up at the OP's door. This whole thing will be the talk of their office.

AdalindSchade · 28/07/2017 09:50

Place marking on this one! Bated breath

Polter · 28/07/2017 09:50

So glad planning are on the ball. I would still look at getting a solicitor's letter sent to ensure that the CFNs are reminded that your garden is your property and they do not have permission to enter it (or open their doors onto it!). Also that they will need to provide X days notice for access for building works and have to make good any damage to your garden/property.

LazyDailyMailJournos · 28/07/2017 09:51

I am utterly gripped by this thread.

Simon you commented earlier that the french doors that OP had posted weren't suitable for a listed building - if you look back at that post again you'll see that she's said that this is an idea of what her doors look like, but hers aren't plastic - the photo is not of her flat.

OP doesn't want to put actual photos up of her garden and building because it would be very identifiable - and as we know our friends at the Daily Mail and the Wright Stuff are always lurking

cardibach · 28/07/2017 09:51

I like Greypaw's explanation!

terrylene · 28/07/2017 09:51

We had someone buy land at the bottom of our garden that has planning restrictions that mean you will never be able to build and has no access.
Why did they buy land and not be able to do anything ? My mind doesn't comprehend Even if just to garden, it would have had to have access?

The land was sold at auction so it would have been sensible to make some preliminary searches first. It was not sold as a building plot, but it 'looked like one' to the unwary or cowboy. They may have been 'caught out' but no other developer/builder went near it - they were the only ones Hmm

Other than that, they think rules are for other people and do not read them, as I said. And they never use solicitors for anything.

IggyAce · 28/07/2017 09:52

Morning Brew all caught up but now I've got to entertain DCs for a few hours. I'm on tender hooks for the planning department update.

liquidrevolution · 28/07/2017 09:52

Are you in a conservation area? That will make it much worse for your stupid neighbours. Too bad.

Potter in your garden so you can eavesdrop if more than one planner turns up.

JennyOnAPlate · 28/07/2017 09:52

The planners have got half an hour before I have to get in my car and drive for three hours!

SparklyMagpie · 28/07/2017 09:53

Before the excitement really starts to kick in, can we all just give CFN's a round of applause?

Without them we would not have OP proudcing these 'on the edge of your seat' threada that kept us all in suspense and entertained the masses on MN!

Bravo CFN's , oscar worthy thread hopefully moved to classics

terrylene · 28/07/2017 09:55

So glad planning are on the ball. I would still look at getting a solicitor's letter sent to ensure that the CFNs are reminded that your garden is your property and they do not have permission to enter it (or open their doors onto it!). Also that they will need to provide X days notice for access for building works and have to make good any damage to your garden/property.

^^ this. And you need to look into blocking the access through the door to make it clear (but do it in a legal manner).

Bluntness100 · 28/07/2017 09:55

I'd have expected them to come round this quickly. As said what's described is a criminal offence, and both the builder and the owner are the criminals. All planners jump on this kind of thing fast.

Are the next door neighbours still not back? I wonder if they are trying to avoid it.

DooRight · 28/07/2017 09:55

replacing my original, rustic shabby chic oak placemark with a brand new cheap shiny UPVc placemark

OrgyofSausages · 28/07/2017 09:56

It's almost worth cancelling a holiday for this thread. Grin

Go OP! Go council planning dept lady!

DadDadDad · 28/07/2017 09:57

BluePancakes - I'm no expert but I can't see that you would need planning permission for simply changing the doors or adding a new door to a bog standard garage.

We converted a garage that was integral to the house into a living room, and the builder was clear that no PP was needed. We did need to apply for building control approval to make sure we were meeting building regulations (eg around insulation), but no-one ever raised planning permission.

justkeepswimmingg · 28/07/2017 09:58

So excited to hear what planning have to say! Just stuck the kettle on, as I have a feeling they'll be around shortly SmileBrew.

MinesaBottle · 28/07/2017 09:59

I'm so glad I don't have any meetings today Grin

RadioGaGoo · 28/07/2017 09:59

BluePancakes - check first to see if the garage had planning permission and if so whether there are any conditions on the decision notice that would prevent openings being added under permitted development (PD).

If there is nothing, check the criteria of Class E, Part 1 of the Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) Order, or visit the interactive house at Planning Portal website.

Even better, if your Council offer a PD drop in service, ask them directly as they may have local knowledge that could be relevant to the PD criteria.

InvisibleLlama · 28/07/2017 10:00

Bluepancakes - look here: www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200125/do_you_need_permission

TheMaddHugger · 28/07/2017 10:00

Wattyyyy Fri 28-Jul-17 09:26:20
Okay I've just had a call from a lovely lady at the planning dept asking if I will be in and is it okay if they access my flat to get through to the garden

this update pleases me. yes it does

Neighbour new door private garden thread #2
dingdongdigeridoo · 28/07/2017 10:00

Sorry you've been going through this stress. But thanks for lots of entertainment while I've been off sick!

BalloonSlayer · 28/07/2017 10:02

If Greypaw is right, then the windows would not have had the builders' sticker on to start with, the one that they then removed in panic when the OP explained the situation.

Although maybe the CFNs will claim that is what has happened. . .

Jg1 · 28/07/2017 10:02

I'm going out to sunbathe for a while now. On the balcony, not in a garden, I don't have one but downstairs do. Maybe I'll take my towel, book & drink down and set myself up there? At least I'll not have knocked any walls through......

RadioGaGoo · 28/07/2017 10:03

If converting garages, particularly on newer estates, it's always worth checking the original planning permission for the entire development, as you can find blanket conditions imposed that restrict garages being converted under permitted development, in order to attempt to preserve the parking standard. Doesnt mean you would not get Planing permission to convert a garage, just that you need to apply for it.

ljny · 28/07/2017 10:03

Good luck with the planning dept.