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Neighbour new door private garden thread #2

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Wattyyyy · 27/07/2017 20:25

Couldn't remember the title of the last one so thought that'd do!

No sign of them at all, went out and looked through and all the lights are off, definitely not in. WTF IS GOING ON????

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MyOtherProfile · 28/07/2017 09:15

When you buy a house or flat you get what you pay for. I'm sure the OPs flat price reflected the cost of a garden where as CFNs didn't.

Tentomidnight · 28/07/2017 09:15

Wow, just read the whole thread. Hope the planning/conservation dept come round soon. Photos of them with clipboards and pained expressions please OP!

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 28/07/2017 09:16

Good point.
The builders must have removed a fair bit of brickwork when they enlarged the opening.
Wonder what they did with them?

TheMaddHugger · 28/07/2017 09:16

terrylene Fri 28-Jul-17 08:59:25

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We had someone buy land at the bottom of our garden that has planning restrictions that mean you will never be able to build and has no access.

Why did they buy land and not be able to do anything ? My mind doesn't comprehend
Even if just to garden, it would have had to have access?

Stillonthatbloodycomputer · 28/07/2017 09:16

Much easier than place marking is just to check out what page you last read and go to it.

ShotsFired · 28/07/2017 09:17

Imagine the scene, you are a planning officer, home from a long dull day of looking at twee conservatory plans.

You come home and decide to catch up on MN for a bit.

See the original thread and idly muse how much fun it would be to investigate something like that.

Roll into work today and "hello planningbod, got a juicy one for you today. @Wattyyyy has rung in, something about some plastic doors on a listed property. Can you go and take a look...?" Grin

OddBoots · 28/07/2017 09:17

I may have missed this in the discussion but have you phoned your buildings insurance to see if they need to send a structural engineer to make sure the building is still safe?

This work falls a long way short of being checked out properly so I would be worried about safety above all.

simon50 · 28/07/2017 09:18

Around 30yrs ago we had a garden that backed on to a builders yard.

They got PP for a single storey building, as it went up the roof was far higher than they had PP for, then the dormer windows went in, making it a 2 storey building. Everyone objected, guess what ? they got retrospective PP, and it got passed. Seems some people just get away with it !

Not too sure about OPs French doors TBH, they don't look as they are in keeping with a house of that age ?
I once had a house built in 1830s of brick and flint (google Cabbages and Kings, Halstead) it was not listed, but in a conversation area and the trouble we had even when we wanted to replace the windows with like for like !

Wonders71 · 28/07/2017 09:19

Can we get txt alerts for updates? This is better than any soap.

Newmum102 · 28/07/2017 09:19

Can't wait for the OP to come back with an update about the CFN! Been glued to this thread since yesterday! Good luck with the planners OP

mistlethrush · 28/07/2017 09:20

Just for reassurance - you are able to paint your walls, and in most cases even the front door without needing to involve the Conservation Officer - this wouldn't be true if you were in a square where all the doors were a certain range of colours and then you painted yours neon pink - but generally speaking, works like that aren't a problem. If you're doing plumbing, electrical work etc you need to be careful that any work does not affect the structure or original features. But works like replacement windows should always be checked out with the Council and, unless you're replacing UPVC that was put in prior to listing etc, you're unlikely to be able to use UPVC but replacement with something in keeping with the building will probably be OK (unless you've got rare 'original' windows that should really be renovated rather than replaced).

The work they've done definitely should have had permission, and should have had a Party Wall Agreement (which I doubt they would have achieved given what they're aiming to do!)

I would put some large tubs in front of the door so that they can't open them for now.

terrylene · 28/07/2017 09:20

cricketballs - Ours have exhausted that avenue - they appeal everything, so the council turns down their application in a text book manner, they appeal, the inspector turns it down and that reinforces the original policy. They were offered a deal that would have given them their money back and a reasonable profit if they were proper developers, but they were too intent of fighting with the planners and took the piss, and so that window was shut tight.

It helps that after they moved on from the locals, some of the allegations they have made about council officials have been very serious indeed, (with no foundation whatsoever). How to win friends and influence people Wink

MyOtherProfile · 28/07/2017 09:21

We had someone buy land at the bottom of our garden that has planning restrictions that mean you will never be able to build and has no access.
Why did they buy land and not be able to do anything ? My mind doesn't comprehend
Even if just to garden, it would have had to have access?
I presume the no access means from a road. We know people who bought a piece of land that was at rhe bottom of their garden from a neighbour at right angles to them. So no road access and no PP but it did give them about 6 foot extra on their garden which all the kids down the street benefitted from!

alteredimages · 28/07/2017 09:21

We had someone buy land at the bottom of our garden that has planning restrictions that mean you will never be able to build and has no access.

Why did they buy land and not be able to do anything ? My mind doesn't comprehend
Even if just to garden, it would have had to have access?

Perhaps to avoid land being purchased by a developer with the connections to successfully apply for the planning restrictions to be lifted.

alteredimages · 28/07/2017 09:23

Just reread the comment, and clearly that wasn't the case. They were the developers who thought that they could have the restrictions lifted. Smile

lmer · 28/07/2017 09:23

Settling in to see how this plays out. Grin

MaidOfStars · 28/07/2017 09:24

Eek. Today is going to be good....

kellogssquareofkrispierice · 28/07/2017 09:25

I wonder if they went on holiday and arranged to have the works done whilst they were away, so as to not disrupt them Shock

Msqueen33 · 28/07/2017 09:26

We live in a terrace house with an alley between us and our neighbour. They have a big 150ft garden and the people who owned our house before sold off part of ours as did next door and they built two houses. Next door don't have kids. I have three. So by rights I can let my kids through our back gate into their garden right? I mean it's just not fair 😉

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Wattyyyy · 28/07/2017 09:26

Okay I've just had a call from a lovely lady at the planning dept asking if I will be in and is it okay if they access my flat to get through to the garden - how nice of them to ask! Shock

She didn't give anything away, as obviously they haven't seen it yet, however, she sounded very interested and quite concerned - they should be here shortly.

It would be great if the neighbours OR builders showed up just in time to meet her but maybe that's too much to ask, ha!

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blueskyinmarch · 28/07/2017 09:27

That is excellent Wattyyyy and answers my question!

MrsCharlieD · 28/07/2017 09:28

Ooh work is really getting in the way of this thread! Looking forward to updates!

MsJolly · 28/07/2017 09:28

Hope the council turn up soon!!!

Foreverhopeful22 · 28/07/2017 09:28

They will be like flies around shit! Can't wait for the update

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Wattyyyy · 28/07/2017 09:29

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