New neighbour using my private garden...

[Wattyyyy]

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this type of fencing . you can get it put over the door .the plannin enforcement officer should be able to arrange it if its considered a potential dangerous structure but if not, do hire it , a couple of panels should be enough

Might sound a bit devils advocate but could it be they've installed it as a fire door with no intention of using it unless they need to. Just thinking in light of recent events. They may even have a right of egress in the event of a fire.

It's ground floor, so they would have the front door and choice of other windows to climb out of. Besides, they don't have planning permission. You cannot just install a door in the wall of a listed properly. Yes, if there was a fire and they climbed out of the kitchen window to get to safety by crossing the OP's garden, I doubt anyone would have an issue with it. You cannot just put a door in just in case - and if it was a concern/issue, I think they would have bought elsewhere and certainly would have gone about it the right way.

@Newdaddie

Wattyyyy Thu 27-Jul-17 16:41:13

I've made sure I've got copies of everything, which proves the garden is mine so that's something!

its hers

Wow - how had this progressed?

Agree that something wedged up against the doors to stop them being opened. Garden furniture?
Don't worry about damaging the doors- they won't be staying!

Just a thought ...

OP - you may wish to contact your insurers ... to inform, for advice, and to prepare for the worst

Maybe they don't want to access your garden whilst you are there but just pretend that it's theirs to show off to their friends? "Oh look at our lovely garden, oh it's such a shame we can't use it at the moment as it's cover in weedkiller."

There are two separate issues here. One is the planning permission on a listed building which hopefully the council will deal with.

The other is them accessing your land which the council will not deal with. It's perfectly legal to apply for planning permission for land you do not own. I think you do need to let them know it's your land and you do not allow them access to it or permission for their windowdoor to trespass over it (and where the boundary is in case they don't know).

I don't think you can bury your head and hope the council sort it because they won't be concerned about non-planning issues.

We are truly in a Golden Age for Cheeky Fuckers in the last few weeks! First WORKzilla then Shagzilla, now Doorzilla. Not to mention countless Parkingzillas, Gluezilla and the Supreme Cheeky Fucker of them all - Mexican House Thief!

Op I have a big scarey dog that could sleep in your garden tonight - keep the stupid fuckers indoors?

Unbelievable! Omg i would be so cross and defiantly looking into planning

At the end of the day they are your neighbours and I really hope that you will be able to resolve this amicably for all your sakes. They have behaved badly but neighbour disputes can become really unpleasant. The reality of this situation must be incredibly stressful to deal with. Have you spoken to your neighbours? It may be preferable to give them the heads up in advance of the planning officer arriving tomorrow.

pretty sure windows have lintels, so taking the frame out and refitting a door and frame is not going to compromise the wall.

assuming iffy builders had half a clue of course.

If they knock and you decide to speak / shout to them perhaps you could have your mobile ready to record the conversation. Could be useful.

Have just found some great pictures of how the window used to be from when my mum was here, and we were taking pictures of her dog in the garden

I REALLY want to post pictures of before and after. I'll see if I can find anything similar on google haha!

Presuming they work till 5 I'm expecting them back anytime soon, ahhh. I'm just going to pretend I can't see/ hear them.

new all the garden is definitely mine.

There's also no other access at all, if you think of the old three storey type buildings that are sort of spread out in "squares" in each neighbourhood, then inside each square is completely secure walled off gardens? It's like that, so there's a wall round the entire garden, then same with next door etc.

Goodness I'm explaining this awfully! I've been trying to make a steak pie all afternoon so haven't had time to do a diagram but I think I might have to

Wow this is shocking, surely no-one could be so ignorant not to know they own a listed building and that they don't own the garden?

On listed buildings this would not be allowed without consent. In any event they cannot use the doors so I would pile some big logs or bricks or old doors of yours on your side of the land tonight just to make it very clear they have no access at all. If they just wanted more light they could hvae put every big new windows in once they had planning consent (very unlikely to be obtained for a listed building)

Maybe they aren't staying there whilst the work is being done?

StatueInTheSky only if the door is no wider than the lintel. If the lintel isn't wide enough, the flimsy plastic doors will be supporting a massive weight... or not.

Go buy a padlock and the other bits and lock your back gate, so they can't use your garden without you saying so to move items into the neighbors.

I bet they were planning to have a barbecue out there tonight.

25 years ago I had to have a sash window replaced in the grade 2 listed flat I was living in, at the insistence of the Duchy of Cornwall freeholders. The window alone, without labour, cost £900...

This is madness op you poor thing! I hope it all gets resolved quickly.

This very nearly wins the award for "most outrageous thing I've read today", but I'm afraid Donald Trump has beaten you.

Since you posted in AIBU, I will just say that the only thing you are BU about, is in thinking you could possibly BU !

They would have known it was listed when bought, surely? If they don't own it they would have needed to have sought permission from their landlord who should have known. I don't think there's really an excuse. And why would you install doors unless, you know, you intended to walk out of them? Large opening windows at a push (if it were not listed) but not opening doors onto your land which would have also been something they should be aware of. Takes nothing to look at title register and plan £6 for both would have set them straight, if they were in doubt.

Summer is Cheeky Fucker season, it was always the month where I used to have to deal with endless neighbour disputes. The weather just turns people doolally (granted these CFs started out as self entitled twats to begin with anyway).

Shameless placemarking to see what is said when the cheeky fuckers get home!