To think it's pathetic to take drugs on a night out ...

[Ashkey234]

She's 31 and until she met this new girl she never took drugs.
Now every time she goes out with her she takes Coke.
Every 30 minutes going to the toilet taking more.
I'm starting to dislike her because of it,I know that sounds awful but she's always jumping around after it,sweating,sniffing,bleeding nose and I just think she's Pathetic.
Both 31,she has 3 kids and I think your a mother and doing that.
I love a night out,cocktails etc but I'm honestly thinking of ending our friendship.
What's your opinions?

No I don't see any pattern between people who drink alcohol and those who take illegal drugs.

"Love all the 'cool' people who think taking drugs makes them bohemian hipsters. Nope it makes you a part of the drugs trade - and that makes you a selfish arsehole."

Hmm, well you can count me out of that. Drugs are not my thing but I have amazing people in my life who dabble. I'd hate to choose my friends on the basis of their substance use. There are more discerning criteria IMO. S x

If the OP read 'friends drug use means I don't have fun hanging out with her any more AIBU?' I'd say your not. But to call everyone who ever has a smoke/line/pill pathetic is a bit strong.
Also the idea that a mother should be forever held to some ridiculous standard that men and child free women are not is a bit grating too.

I wouldn't do it because it's illegal and drinking alcohol isn't. It's that simple for me.

That's really dumb - lots of silly people thought 'legal highs' were safe because they weren't explicitly illegal and did extremely addictive/potent substances without any caution.

illegal = unsafe / legal = safe is a terrible terrible risk assessment attitude

YANBU. Pathetic. Whats up with just going out and having a few drinks?

I also don't think being cunts about people who have made different life choices is particularly productive tbh. You don't know why those people are taking what they take. You don't know why some people drink to excess every weekend. You have no idea what their lives are like so you shouldn't judge until you have been there.
Yeah some people are just dicks. Many sober people are dicks too. Never met anyone taking drugs who do so because they think they are "cool". Met many smug people who need to get off their high horses though.

I do think drugs should be legalised but the bottom line is that they are not legal. Not only does that make a coke user part of a horrible supply chain as previous posters have mentioned, it also means you face a criminal record if caught in possession. And the ramifications of that on your job, your career, your income, and subsequently your family separates it completely from alcohol.
We can argue the toss all day about how harmful it may be, but it's not illegal to have a gin and tonic in a nightclub.

I'm not a fan of cocaine but I know plenty of perfectly good parents who take it on occasion which leads me to believe it is also fine in moderation.

Drugs trade is, of course, horrible but it's hardly unique in being an incredibly unethical purchase that perpetuates horrific suffering.

As far as I can see the only real difference between cocaine and anything else is the illegality which leads to extra risk.

Grating? To think a mother shouldn't take drugs because she has children who rely on her.
It's very selfish
If you have no kids it's your life to waste but if you have kids and you die..what then?

Do you ever hear anyone dying from 1 glass of wine?

Charmayne Maxwell.

Don't like any drugs, alcohols taken plenty of parents away from children as have cigarettes. With is ALL pretty damned pathetic. And tragic.

No point taking the moral high ground as it won't change anything. I don't even understand the purpose of the op, you don't like it, you don't want to be associated with it so go and find someone else to drink cocktails with.

People on here saying that having a couple or cocktails on a night out is comparable to sniffing coke off a toilet seat...sorry, no way.
And as long as it doesn't affect her ability to parent...I think taking class A drugs every time you went our might affect your ability to parent! Not to mention the small chance that you might die and that would be your legacy to your kids. I'm pretty sure when I have a few drinks on a Saturday I'm not going to OD. OP you are right to be finding it tedious, it's quite sad.

I used to love coke up till about ten years ago. But it turned me into a narcissistic boring twat who did some awful things. But I thought it made me super cool and rock n roll

The last time I took it I almost OD'ing on a night out. I was a lone parent of DS who was one at the time, he was with my mum) ...I went home with my male mate and I can't actually remember what happened. I know we prob had sex. Then he took me home the next morning he was still coked up and he crashed on the motorway. It was a wonder we weren't killed. After that I haven't touched it, it made me realise my son could have lost his mum 😰

YANBU- I wouldn't want to be friends with something like that

You see so many stories in the news of people ending up in hospital because they've taken god knows what

Yup, because it isn't newsworthy when a drunken twat gets taken into hospital unconscious and has to have their stomach pumped.

Drugs are not cool. Alcohol is one of the most dangerous drugs there is, and the hypocrisy that 'alcohol is soooooo fun and safe' and that other drugs become fatal/obnoxious just by virtue of being illegal - is, quite frankly, about the debating level of a 5 year old.

Masses of people die of alcohol poisoning.

Chocolate has a really awful supply chain.

I'm not arguing that taking drugs is great. And I don't use them myself. But the sheer nonsense people talk about them pisses me off. ANY drug in large enough quantities, often enough is a problem. Different drugs have different issues. Alcohol has a lot more issues than people who want to carry on drinking admit.

No I don't see any pattern between people who drink alcohol and those who take illegal drugs

Oh dear, I think you misunderstood my point.

(You might want to do a bit of research, or would that cut into your 'posting a run of controversial, some might say goady, posts on mumsnet time?)

You've very unlikely to die from taking a small amount of coke. You could die in a car accident but no one says it's irresponsible for mothers to drive.
Your so high up on your high horse I doubt your mate wants to hang out with you either.

Alcohol doesn't have problems if you just drink normally though...

*roarityroar Mon 24-Jul-17 16:46:10
I'm happy to be judged, no problem *

Happy to be a drug addict. Yeah, something to tell the Grandkids later on. That is if you live that long.

We could just get down from our high horses and say that if you don't enjoy nights out with a friend, don't go on nights out with that friend...

Ashkey234

Tbh, I think I would be reporting her to Social Services.

What's goady about having an opinion if you take drugs you risk dying and leaving your child motherless..it's a fact

Depends on how much of a friend she is to you and vice versa I guess.

If I liked them otherwise I wouldnt end a friendship over something I wouldnt personally do.

"imagine loosing your mam and she had taken drugs and overdosed ..I would never forgive her"

My friend did, she loved her mum so very much, as did my other friends DM who died from alcohol poisoning

YANBU Op and people comparing alcohol to drugs are dumb at best.

It's skanky, grubby. It is not cool, or hip and there is a massive amount of other crime and suffering involved. People so boring they have to take drugs to seem or feel that they are hip and cool. Pathetic.

"Alcohol doesn't have problems if you just drink normally though..."

This ^^

If as many people took illegal drugs as drunk alcohol it would be interesting to compare the figures. Currently you can't because far more people consume alcohol than illegal drugs, so the argument against alcohol isn't a very balanced one.