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To think it's pathetic to take drugs on a night out ...

464 replies

Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 16:10

She's 31 and until she met this new girl she never took drugs.
Now every time she goes out with her she takes Coke.
Every 30 minutes going to the toilet taking more.
I'm starting to dislike her because of it,I know that sounds awful but she's always jumping around after it,sweating,sniffing,bleeding nose and I just think she's Pathetic.
Both 31,she has 3 kids and I think your a mother and doing that.
I love a night out,cocktails etc but I'm honestly thinking of ending our friendship.
What's your opinions?

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MSLehrerin · 25/07/2017 14:33

The very one @Decaffstilltastesweird and the goady LA housing thread 😕

LogicalPsycho · 25/07/2017 14:50

That's a fair point. If i was in debt to my hairdresser and my family were walking on bare floorboards because we couldn't afford carpets, I don't think I could justify the spending money on cocktails while partying with cokeheads.

notgivingin789 · 25/07/2017 15:13

YANBU !!! It's disgusting.

ashkey234 · 25/07/2017 15:16

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Decaffstilltastesweird · 25/07/2017 15:44

Wasn't it Ashkey with a capital A before? Was that last (ableist) post from the op or an imposter?

MSLehrerin · 25/07/2017 15:51

It was @Decaffstilltastesweird

Think it might have been a NC error from OP.

ashkey234 · 25/07/2017 15:52

I like it better without the capital A
Don't get too excited Columbo

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ashkey234 · 25/07/2017 15:52

Don't worry with or without the capital letter my opinion on cocaine usage remain exactly the same.

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Naturebabe · 25/07/2017 15:53

I agree with you OP. Alcohol in moderation and drugs are NOT the same thing. People like to ignore the commodity chain that gets the drugs to them and all the abuse and exploitation it involves. I have a 'friend' who is super healthy with food and exercise and is constantly caining MDMA.... why?

ashkey234 · 25/07/2017 15:54

Having a discussion about people sniffing God knows what yet some people still mention my latest hair apt
Mind boggles

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MSLehrerin · 25/07/2017 15:59

It just confuses people when the OP has a NC fail mid thread @ashkey234 / @Ashkey234 with no explanation 😕

The extensions / housing / carpets thread was a belter. It helps if we can place people when discussing matters like drug use / drinking / expensive hairdresser appointments. 😃 it's not allowed to make it a TAAT tho.

Decaffstilltastesweird · 25/07/2017 16:06

Grin Columbo. I'm sure it was meant as an insult, but I rather like that.

No need to get snarky about it op. It was a genuine question! It was a bit of a random NC mid thread.

And your previous post was ableist and a personal attack to boot, which I suspect is why it was deleted.

ashkey234 · 25/07/2017 16:13

Which post was deleted?
I wasn't aware of any if I'm honest.

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Decaffstilltastesweird · 25/07/2017 16:25

Your post at 15:16 was deleted. There's a link there to talk guidelines if you don't know why it was deleted. Genuinely trying to help! Sorry if it sounds patronising.

ashkey234 · 25/07/2017 17:21

I apologise,after so many nasty posters it's hard to know who is who
Once again sorry my mistake Flowers

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brendani9 · 25/07/2017 18:16

I do love this place sometimes! So many judgy idiots on here!! I have tried coke once, didn't particularly get the hype, not done so since.
Have a good few friends who do occasionally dabble, some of them parents.
They're reasonably responsible in their logistics of doing so: if one is, the other won't.
Some people are dicks when pissed, some people are dicks when coked-up. Some people are just dicks!
If you want to step away OP then do so.
But for christs sake, enough with the judgy bullshit. Watch Bill Hicks for a relatively balanced view on drugs.
And whoever said that the coke trade facilitates terrorism, the argument could be made that driving facilitates terrorism. Everyone, statistically, is involved in killing his or her neighbour. Get a life.

Notknownatthisaddress · 25/07/2017 18:48

I don't judge people for being drug addicts, as we're none of us perfect, we all have weaknesses, we all have times in our life when we're easily led, and it's easy to get addicted to something.

However, I have to say that anyone saying having a few glasses of beer or wine is no different to snorting cocaine or smoking pot is seriously deluded.

In most cases, having a few glasses of wine several times a week isn't going to cause any real harm, or lead to anything further.

Smoking cannabis or snorting coke will invariably lead to harder drugs for many, and it's outrageously ignorant and narrow minded to suggest that won't happen.

I have to echo the posters who have said people supporting drug taking and saying 'it's no worse than drinking wine' and so on, probably do drugs themselves. What other possible reason can there be for supporting drug use? Confused

There are some very worrying and dangerous posts on this thread, suggesting drug taking is ok. I think the thread should be taken down tbh.

mogulfield · 25/07/2017 19:13

I don't judge people who take drugs, and I don't disown them, as I would be left without a fair few of my good friends and family.
But, I hate the fact that drugs end up being sold in the UK as a result of people being trafficked/raped/coerced into gang violence.
I personally don't want any part of that, and when I've broached this subject with people who take drugs, they do acknowledge and this and want to stop.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/29/albanian-gangs-control-uk-cocaine-market-says-agency
One of the many, many articles relating to where our drugs come from. But go right ahead and believe it comes from ethical sources.

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/07/2017 19:27

@Notknownatthisaddress if cannabis is a gateway drug, alcohol is too. The gateway drug theory has been largely discredited.

And, for the 5th time I think, no I don't use any illegal drugs (or prescription drugs for that matter).

revolution909 · 25/07/2017 19:33

Yanbu, also coke is unethical (those drugs have destroyed a few countries, thank you narcos!)

BossaDad · 25/07/2017 19:35

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KidLorneRoll · 25/07/2017 19:39

"Don't worry with or without the capital letter my opinion on cocaine usage remains a load of ignorant shite."

Fixed that for you.

Slarti · 25/07/2017 19:41

However, I have to say that anyone saying having a few glasses of beer or wine is no different to snorting cocaine or smoking pot is seriously deluded.

In most cases, having a few glasses of wine several times a week isn't going to cause any real harm, or lead to anything further. Smoking cannabis or snorting coke will invariably lead to harder drugs for many, and it's outrageously ignorant and narrow minded to suggest that won't happen.

But here's the thing, when you present a skewed dichotomy by insisting that cocaine be juxtaposed with "two cocktails" or "a couple of glasses of wine" you must know deep down that they are much more comparable than you prefer to admit. Otherwise why keep trying to minimise the alcohol intake in these examples? Habitual misuse of alcohol is absolutely comparable to the habitual misuse of other drugs.

As for your second paragraph, can you back up the claim that most people who drink alcohol do so with no harm or without it leading to anything further? 90% of the population have tried alcohol, compared to under 50% cannabis and 16% cocaine. I would bet that for the majority of cases alcohol was the first drug tried, leading onto other drugs like cannabis and cocaine.

Can you also back up your claim that cannabis and cocaine "invariably" lead to harder drugs? You see, if everyone who tried cannabis invariably ended up using harder drugs, wouldn't the statistics for harder drug use be much closer to that of cannabis?

As you yourself are opposed to ignorant narrow mindedness I hope you will respond to my post reasonably and address what appear to be fallacies in your argument.

Cocklodger · 25/07/2017 19:46

Oh fantastic. I've smoked cannabis on and off for around 18 years now,
When do I start taking heroin? 😂

Cocklodger · 25/07/2017 19:50

Serious response time.
Cannabis can in some cases cause the brain to be more susceptible to enhanced reactions to further drugs.
It does not make it more likely that you'll take said drugs, however. Nicotine and alcohol also have similar effects.
Also, there are no known cases of death linked to cannabis overdose or misuse.
Can you say the same about nicotine, or alcohol, or even paracetamol? All of the above remain legal....

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