to think that schoolchildren should not have to wear a sign saying they have 24hrs to get their uniform sorted?

[orlantina]

www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jul/17/school-makes-pupils-wear-signs-if-uniform-doesnt-meet-standards

The idea being that by wearing a sign, it makes teachers aware that the pupil is aware of the issue and is going to get it sorted.

But I think that wearing a sign just also highlights issues and makes the pupils a potential target.

There are loads of reasons why a uniform might not be up to scratch in the morning. Not all of them are under the pupils' control.

And they wouldn't do that if they saw the child being challenged on it by a teacher

Yes - but wearing a lanyard is a constant visible reminder that they've been told off. Whereever they go...

Perfectly sensible. Makes the kids' lives easier - they can just flash it at each teacher who raises an eyebrow at their trainers or wrong jumper or whatever. Makes the teachers lives easier - they don't have to have a whole 'oh you left them at your dad's? You told Mrs Smith in registration? Well why didn't she give you a note? So when are you going to your dad's next? OK, so if your mum is buying you new ones will that be by tomorrow? Not till the weekend?' conversation.

& no, mostly we don't care that much, or indeed at all, really, but SLG do. To be fair, if you're going to have a uniform you need to enforce it. Otherwise a) the school quickly looks like St Trinians/ a 90s Skool Disco event & b) the poor saps whose parents do make them wear it as originally intended get bullied for being dweebs.

You can make a perfectly respectable argument for no uniform, of course (works well in lots of countries) but overwhelmingly it's parents who want the damn uniform in the first place, & would complain vigorously if it were to be abolished...

Some parents make me sick- 'we only shaved 2 stars into his hair..' ' her shoes aren't that high..' etc.
If they don't want to adhere to uniform policy then they should send their kids elsewhere. Some parents, and in turn, their kids think the world owes them a living and that they are somehow exempt from rules..

Wherever there is a teacher, they are likely to be asked really, especially in a school that clearly takes uniform infringements seriously. I would suspect too that in the absence of a teacher, the card could be tucked in.

But, truly, children do not tend to get ridiculed for a uniform infringement!!

The kind of kid who would possibly mind wearing a lanyard is the kind of kid who would be mortified to have to engage in a negative conversation about their uniform with every teacher that day. I bet they'd be glad to only have to do it the once.

Completely agree.

The card

Ooh, lurkinghusband coming dangerously close there to being awarded the lanyard of honour for being the first to invoke Godwins Law , he may have just got away with it. I wonder who it is that's responsible for the Merchants' Academy website? They need to be wearing a lanyard to point out that they're a Bad Spella-ella-ella. (What? So I read it, I've got time on my hands ok? I'm waiting for a curry to cook!)

Seems like a good idea, it means that different teachers will not continually pick up on the offending child's incorrect uniform. "Lanyard with a card" is slightly less dramatic than what I pictured in my head when reading the title of this thread, I was imagining something humiliating, akin to the "dunce's cap" of old.

I don't think that kids would get ridiculed for the wrong uniform but would get lots of respect for getting away with the wrong uniform.

My teens would wear the lanyard so you couldn't see it. Their uniform has a blazer so it's easy to wear it so it wasn't visible.

So it's basically a pass?

So basically they are shaming a child into wearing the correct uniform. Is shame really an appropriate discipline method? I think not.

They have a lanyard at ds' non-academy school. It is supposed to be so other teachers know the uniform issue has already been picked up on, so they don't keep going on about it.

It does smack of the yellow star a little bit though.

Better still, just wear the uniform properly then the issue doesn't even arise

Interpretations change and you can't just go out and eg buy new shoes overnight - either because of lack of time or money. Schools should only change their rules (or interpretation of them) and the beginning of a term (or half term) so parents have time to react.

You will get children making copies of that and wearing it all the time so they can wear what the like!

That lanyard/sign is crying out for a black marker to correct it to 'I have 24 hours to sort my shit out'

If they don't want to adhere to uniform policy then they should send their kids elsewhere. Some parents, and in turn, their kids think the world owes them a living and that they are somehow exempt from rules

This comment would be fair if parents had a choice. But generally parents have to send their kids to the school they are allocated to and have no say over the uniform. And even if the uniform is ok when they start going to a school, it is often changed, especially if you get a new HT as they like to make their mark. So you might think that eg you can buy everything from Asda or Tesco and then you find yourself having to buy expensive bespoke items from a school uniform supplier.

I know kids mess around, hitch skirts up and the like. But often it isn't about the kids, it's about the parents and I don't think kids should never be punished for their parents' (perceived) failings.

I would suggest they concentrate on more important things then uniform.

Kids don't get bullied because they got told off. Being told off at school is cool

Not at ds' school. In year 7 they were a bunch of little snitches. I'm surprised the school spent so much time investigating all the alleged offences. It was like the Stasi in terms of informants. It all seems to have calmed down a lot since then (he's now in year 9).

'... live'
'... Tulsa'
'... save the planet'

Endless fun with tippex & sharpie.

They do need to decide where that hanging preposition is at .