to think that schoolchildren should not have to wear a sign saying they have 24hrs to get their uniform sorted?

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www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jul/17/school-makes-pupils-wear-signs-if-uniform-doesnt-meet-standards

The idea being that by wearing a sign, it makes teachers aware that the pupil is aware of the issue and is going to get it sorted.

But I think that wearing a sign just also highlights issues and makes the pupils a potential target.

There are loads of reasons why a uniform might not be up to scratch in the morning. Not all of them are under the pupils' control.

Obviously that was meant to be not

Bloody hell, some weird people running UK schools these days. I sometimes wonder if the weird sadistic RE teachers who used to prey on young teens now get their kicks out of enforcing insane uniform rules instead.

We do the uniform debate in school as part of debating club and the general consensus every year is that the kids would rather wear uniform.

That's just because it's the status quo and they have never known anything else. Teenagers on the whole are naturally conservative with a small c

Schools who obsess over school uniform are frequently the least happy places for children to learn (and to teach in ). Children come from a variety of backgrounds and not everyone has the resources or the ability to provide all the uniform requirements demanded by school.
Children don't have control over family circumstances. The staff in the school in which I taught asked for donations of outgrown, unwanted uniform. We then washed and pressed items so there were always uniform items to hand for those in need. Our feeling was that against all the odds these children made it to school each day and this was our way of making sure they stayed. Not all schools act this way.

I've got 2 rule sticker girls, and one boy who thinks school uniform (and really any clothes he can get away without wearing) is a pain.

Both the girls said that they liked the lanyard idea as if they'd forgotten/not got something it's really simple to show a teacher challenging. They would, at present, have to write it in their planner, which is A5 side, and so if they were stopped in the corridor would have to faff around in their bag to get it out.
Ds said it would be much better to wear than a tie so he'd choose to wear one that said "ds has forgotten his tie today" any day of the week. I think he misses the point.

scully your school sounds great. And so does the school where all the kids wear jeans and primark hoodies.
If schools can keep a stock of uniform clothes for children whose parents are unable or unwilling to provide them then surely they could do the same with basic non uniform clothing.
I've also got to say, my kids always wore supermarket uniform and shoes from shoezone (which often resembled generic black trainers) and never got bullied for it. Most of the other kids wore similar things, but then we come from an area where most people are in the same boat ie have to watch the pennies. The obsession with wearing labels and the latest trainers happened about 20 years ago and doesn't seem to be a thing anymore.

On last day of school, sent my DS into school in non-uniform (complete mistake - mixed message about change of clothes needed for activity). Fortunately no lanyard of shame issued, but he was given a very scruffy Y6 uniform to wear which totally swamped him and looked ridiculous. But by the same token quite pleased the school just dealt with it in low key manner. No phone calls home, no unpleasant letters, he wasn't made to feel embarrassed and weirdly he actually loved the ginormous uniform.

To be fair to the school which is in my home city it is a deprived area where historically the schools have been under performing. I am not a fan of the multi academy system of which this school is one but they are trying to raise standards and improve school life for everyone. I don't like this public shaming but I can see where they are coming from.

*AlecTrevelyan006 Mon 17-Jul-17 20:57:13

The sooner we get rid of school uniforms the better.

Won't happen though.*

This!! Schools don't need uniform. They aren't a leveller. There are many more differences notable in uniform than 'normal' clothing.

I also find it worrying that posters here say that those without the correct uniform or scruffy uniform have bigger issues than those with the smart uniforms, that those with scruffy or incorrect items are from neglectful families.

what about those from working families who are struggling? They aren't neglectful or poor, they despite having a reasonable income due to living expenses can't afford to replace £30-£50 shoes the same night or even £10 for trousers. Not everyone has credit cards or credit facilities with next.

Uniform is such a palaver, as a parent who doesn't struggle o buy uniform or the correct shoes etc, I still believe it to be a pointless task. I'd much rather spend the £300+ a year I spend on uniform per child (even supermarket white shirts and black skirts add up) on buying clothing for everyday use.

What's wrong with a sensible dress policy? Many American schools and European schools do this, shorts must not be short shorts, shoulders covered etc. You'll find that 99.9% will come in in jeans and a t-shirt/sweatshirt anyway with trainers. Therefore eliminating the need for teachers to waste time on enforcing pointless rules and to be able to pend their time teaching which I'm sre that they would much rather be doing.

UnicornMadeOfPinkGlitter I think your comments are very sensible (and I am actually in favour of uniforms - nearly wrote unicorns!)