to think that schoolchildren should not have to wear a sign saying they have 24hrs to get their uniform sorted?

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www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jul/17/school-makes-pupils-wear-signs-if-uniform-doesnt-meet-standards

The idea being that by wearing a sign, it makes teachers aware that the pupil is aware of the issue and is going to get it sorted.

But I think that wearing a sign just also highlights issues and makes the pupils a potential target.

There are loads of reasons why a uniform might not be up to scratch in the morning. Not all of them are under the pupils' control.

Less obvious I think. Because you can just glance at it and say nothing

What about those pupils who do glance at it and say something?

It's completely different to a note. A note is discreet and can be produced when challenged, whereas a lanyard is on display for all to see and yes it is designed to humiliate.
When my Grandmother was a child her parents were poor and one day she had to choose between going to mass and going to a local mission who was giving away free, stale buns. She went for the bun and her absence was noted at church. In school she was challenged and told her story, then she was made to wear a sign around her neck stating she had sold her sole for a bun. Encouraging numbers at church or humiliation?
This type of behaviour is exactly why local authorities took over running schools in the first place. So education could be standardised, which it isn't in academies and so no cruel and unusual punishment occurred.

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As penggwyn says, uniform infringements are already obvious. And, again, the children will be asked about them, in public, maybe 5 times, and be expected to produce the "discreet" note, in the absence of the lanyard.

It is nothing like wearing a sign saying you sold your soul for a bun...

Essentially, other children will not care IME. Staff are required to care. It's a time saver.

Essentially, other children will not care IME

Don't you think it might make some pupils a target for bullying?

I wonder what sort of idiot came up with this?

So is wearing a sign saying you sold your soul for a bun. Saves the other teachers asking why the child was absent form church and enacting other punishments. Plus it stops the other children asking and getting distracted from their work.

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I really am finding it hard to believe everyone on here would rather their child just get shouted at over and over again for he same thing by different people

Teachers shouldn't be shouting at children for uniform issues, for fuck's sake

Mine would be wearing the lanyard. She is in non-regulation sandals for the last week of term as I found her school shoes were too small at the end of last week. She can't wear shoes that give blisters and I won't by new shoes one week before end of term. I'd rather give her a note to show a teacher each time she was challenged - one with my number on so they could talk to the organ grinder rather than the monkey!

I have never heard of a student being bullied for breaking school rules

What? For wearing inappropriate uniform, scruffy shoes, forgetting clothes because they're in the wash, can't afford more clean clothes etc?

No student has ever picked on another student for that?

@Pengggwyn If a child is already a target, then any drawing further attention to themselves that isn't an attempt to address the bullying is an invitation for more varied attacks.

When oh when will we grow up in this country, and stop this ridiculous national obsession of foisting a uniform on school kids?

Schools are already reducing lunch breaks 30 minutes to reduce bullying. This won't help.

Not when uniform infringements include black shoes that can't be polished but are otherwise ok and affordable. At state schools. Ffs.

As above, I think students who are picked on because they are poor (essentially) get picked on irrespective of a lanyard

And the lanyard just gives another reason to pick on them? A visible one?

That is not my experience at all, no. Children are generally not bullied for wearing trainers instead of school shoes.

Maybe you're wrong. That would be pretty shit for those kids.

Oh so that makes it alright then @Pengggwn. They are already bullied so let's make them wear something that makes them a bigger target, yeah let's make their lives even worse.
If a uniform infraction occurs and a note explaining why isn't enough and the school have 0 flexibility, then a simple detention should suffice.