to think that schoolchildren should not have to wear a sign saying they have 24hrs to get their uniform sorted?

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www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jul/17/school-makes-pupils-wear-signs-if-uniform-doesnt-meet-standards

The idea being that by wearing a sign, it makes teachers aware that the pupil is aware of the issue and is going to get it sorted.

But I think that wearing a sign just also highlights issues and makes the pupils a potential target.

There are loads of reasons why a uniform might not be up to scratch in the morning. Not all of them are under the pupils' control.

Fuck me what kind of place is this.

Perhaps the fact there's less disruption shows more that if you leave the kid alone there's no disruption after all it is erasing the need to say anything isn't it? Nothing to do with the uniform and more to do with the fact teachers aren't wasting time on it in class. Can't believe he thinks this is good idea.

It's parents who provide the uniform after all. Circumstances could well mean they have to make do ffs.

I would ask myself if this kind of behaviour would be acceptable in the workplace.
If it is not acceptable for a 55 year old employee then it is not acceptable for a student.

Irritated I have to wear a lanyard all day everyday - what point are you making?

It's a lanyard. Adults wear them in schools.

Adults wear them in schools

Do you wear a lanyard saying any offence you have committed at work?

Should teachers wear:

I have failed to hand in my data this week. I will do it tomorrow.
My class have failed to achieve my class targets.

Just so they don't get hassle from other members of SMT?

No but I have a board up with called Failure to Deliver and we are named and shamed on that. It can tuck into the child's jumper- don't want your child to wear a card around their neck so they aren't shouted at all day? Send them in the right uniform

And what if their shoes have fallen to bits suddenly (as cheap modern shoes often do) and you simply don't have the money to get shoes in 24 hours, StickThat? Shoe disasters have happened several times to my dc but fortunately we have both money and a car which means we can get to a shoe shop after work/school if need be. Without both those we would have been stuck.

Can anyone really be called Petula Peacock? That's far too appropriate a name for someone protesting about brightly coloured headbands.

Cory then the child has an easily hidable credit card round their neck so every time a teacher approaches them, they can show the sign and not get another bollocking. I really am finding it hard to believe everyone on here would rather their child just get shouted at over and over again for he same thing by different people

The purpose isn't to shame them, it is to stop every teacher having to waste their time challenging the student about uniform.

Or, of course, they could acknowledge that teachers faffing about uniform is a total waste of time anyway and tell them not to. No child has ever learnt better because he is wearing the "right" colour shoes.

Actually, shoes are my point of doom when it comes to uniforms.

Children do not have uniform styles of feet. And unlike every other bit of hideous polycotton frumpiness we inflict on them, shoes can't be taken in, elasticated, rolled up a bit or worn large for growth.

Of the school shoes shown in that photo, one local school would ban the slip-on shiny ones, the other would ban the Converse-style flat plain ones .

I hate this culture that's creeping in. It's yet more demonising of children and teenager - the presumption that all children and young people are inherently bad, therefore they must be managed with petty and draconian rules. The whole issue could be avoided by having a simple dress code rather than all these uniform rules. And kids would likely be wearing more comfortable clothes and so be more likely to learn well. teachers would have time to teach.

All these heads with their petty rules must have some serious self-esteem issues. I'm glad the school my DDs attend (also an Academy) handles things with more flexibility and sense. So that the important stuff can be focused on, like really cracking down on bullying and providing good pastoral care. Little things like that.

It's a note, on a lanyard. Every school I've worked in, children get a note from HoY or similar to say they are aware of the uniform issue, and child produces it every lesson when the teachers picks up (again) the uniform issue. This is to save time. In terms of shaming, it is no different from note production.

I really am finding it hard to believe everyone on here would rather their child just get shouted at over and over again for he same thing by different people

Maybe teachers shouldn't shout at pupils who have uniform issues and could just check with them?

Schools have SIMS now. Very easy to check on the system and make a note. Less 'in your face"

If you think uniform infringements shouldn't be challenged, it's a different issue.

In terms of shaming, it is no different from note production

You don't think it's more visible than a note?

A lanyard is hardly on your face its tiny.

I think uniforms are good and serve a purpose, I remember at school we didn't have too tight a rule and the rich/poor split was very obvious and caused a lot of bullying.

Less obvious I think. Because you can just glance at it and say nothing. Rather than overtly ask.

I have no issue with a note - it could be in their planner. But it's private

I have an issue with a lanyard. It's public

The note is private. The uniform questioning is not. It's public. The lanyard is in fact more discreet.