to want MIL to wash hands?

[archiesmummy]

Hiya all, I'm back on MN after quite a long absense. For you who don't remember me I have a DS who is now 15 montsh old (wow, where did all that time go?).

I was in te room next to the bathroom recently when MIL used the toilet and she never washed her hands and now I've become paranoid about it.

We are hardly ever there, becuase they smoke in the house, but sometimes (rarely though as I must admit to not trusting v many ppl with ds) mil comes here to sit ds and now I don't want her to touch him at all. Surely the bacteria will spread to my ds and can be dangerous?

She also wiped DS face with a tissue she spat on to get it wet before I had a chance to get a flannel.
And she let DS steal a spoon from a coffee shop because it kept him quiet and when I confronted her about this she said "They have so many spoons" (doh)

I think because of her lack of basic hygiene and morals she shouldn't spend too much time with DS but DH thinks I'm overreacting.

Am I being unreasonable? What would you do about this?

So if your mouth has more germs, is arse-licking more dangerous for the lickee than the licker?

oh mb
this one:
"More bacteria in your mouth btw than is your arse "

deserves mn quote of the week, imo
soooo funny!

oh, and yeah
licking your open wounds...is that only a good idea then, if you are also able to lick yer arse???? I mean, apparently dogs and other animals lick their woulds which aids healing, has that anything to do with the oral flora and fauna of a "arselicker" then?

what a topic!

Just read OP.
Would object to smoking and non-washing of paws after ablutions.
Would grin and bear the granny dribble, TBH.

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Hunker!!

What can I say? Clean hands, mind in the gutter!

Well, your arse is well protected in terms of immune system. Actually most faecal material will drop into the stomach, and the acid present will kill most of it off for the licker.

That said, oral/anal sex is a darn fine way of spreading paracites that have protective spores that can pass though the acid in the stomach. thread worms, for example do this very well.

Biologically speaking, probably best to keep arse licking metaphorical. But I suppose chacun a son gout , and there are ways to do it safely

The skin is not a barrier martianbishop. It's a membrane.

Many nasty poisonous products were passed on the basis that the skin is a barrier when in fact it's permeable.

Now I'm doomed.

Why, what have you been doing?!

I'm with cod...get over it
she wont kill your ds over unwashed hands and a bit of spit, and as for the teaspoon you are having a laff!

Message withdrawn

barf.....Hunker and MB behave yourselves.

Can't, am cheering Meggle up

Not to bacteria it isn't! They are too big.

small molecules can sometimes pass, but they depnd on having a degree of permiability....which will depend on the lipophilic nature/ charge and size of the molecule.

Skin is the first line of defense in the immune system. Mucous membranes are far more permiable. Most poisons will act on these. And to compensate for these MM will have more enzymes, like lysozme to clear up intection

I was thinking that Spidermama. Surely the skin is permeable? Hence moisturisers, topical steroid creams, ibuprofen gels etc being designed to be absorbed through it

Oh OK as you were, AT EASE

The arse is porous, MB. It's got a hole in it.

Oh FGS dont let anyone kiss your children either.....dirty disgusting thing to do.

shocking.

But bacteia are soooooooooooooooo much bigger than ibuprofen molecules. Trying to get a bacteria through the skin is tha really tough job!

Most emotients do not enter the skin in fact. They sit on the surface of the skin (which is a layer of dead cells btw) and helps to prevent further loss of water. they don't put water inot the skin as such!

Dust in the house is mostly dead skin cells ....and the shit of the mites that eat the dead skin!

spidermama, technically you're correct, but skin is only selectively permeable; functionally, skin is a barrier, especially against bacteria.

Yes hunker....we are great big Polos really, with a hole that runs right through us.

But the lining of the arse isn't totaly porous!

And my arse tends not to let water etc into it......but we are back to chacun a son gout teritory again!

Where do pentapeptides fit into this, MB?

Or is that a load of old arse?

I am a stick of rock with "only friendly bacteria and none of your arse germs" written right the way through me, MB

MartianBishop

I bloody love you, MN is a better place for you being here. Now can you please turn the heat on in your hot tub I am blardy freezing and have been in here since last night.

Weil's disease. Thats an interesting one.