To think it will serve some smokers right if outdoor smoking is banned

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Yesterday a friend and I were sitting outside a cafe in a park (no indoor seating) having a coffee. We were the only people there as it was late in the afternoon. A couple sat at the table right beside us and proceeded to light up and enjoy a couple of cigarettes with their coffee.

I was sitting at the bus shelter a couple of evenings ago and a guy sat down beside me and proceeded to light a cigarette. I got up and walked a few feet away and stood until the bus came. He just smoked away, oblivious.

There was a long queue at the ATM today as several in the area weren't working. A woman smoked away in front of me and around loads of other people as we all waited for our turn.

Surely, just because smoking isn't illegal out of doors, it doesn't mean smokers don't have to show any consideration of cop on towards others.

AIBU to think that some smokers (and I know it's only some) will have only themselves to blame if smoking out of doors is eventually made illegal?

I was smoking in a designated smoking area which also had a small bar. Huge sign above the door which said "smoking area".

Couple sat at the table next to me and started fake coughing and flapping their arms around. I pointed out they were actually sat in an area built for smokers and they said "well yes but it's disgusting, can't you move"

As a non-smoker, I think you are being ridiculous and hysterical.

I fully support the ban on smoking in restaurants, pubs, cafés etc. I don't allow smoking in my house either. My parents, my MIL and my BIL have always smoked, and when visiting our house they smoked in the garden or on the drive. Never inside.

Outdoor smoking isn't an issue for me and I cannot get het up over it at all. Think of all the fumes you breathe in from cars, buses, lorries and other vehicles. What about when someone has a bonfire in their garden, or lights an incinerator or barbecue? All of those give off fumes.

Personally, I think that this crusade against smokers has gone far enough now. I understood it at first, but I am not on board any more. If people want to smoke that is their choice, outside or in their own homes.

I'd like moaning about smoking outside threads banned from MN

Steady on, I know swearing is aloud on here and that but that's going too far!

I never get the wishing to eat outside, i imagine people walking down the street eating a gregs pasty. Why would you want to eat outside with all the beasties?

Do people really want to live in a world where things they don't agree with are banned

I'd totally ban garden bonfires. Really can't understand why they are allowed.

And while we don't currently have the public transport infrastructure to significantly reduce car use, we could ban silly oversized polluting cars that guzzle petrol. And why oh why are there cars that you can go away and leave with the engine still running? There have twice been cases in the last few weeks of people parking their BMWs at my local station and obviously being in such a hurry to get their trains that they've forgotten to switch the engine off. How can you design a car that way? Such a waste of fuel and very polluting. (and before someone says it was just the fan, it wasn't).

I don't find smoking an issue outside although sometimes you do notice it but will be forever grateful that it is banned indoors.

It would be very very difficult to live in the modern world without access to cars, buses and trains.

Until planners stop building large housing estates with no facilities within walking distance, and public transport is updated to meet modern needs people will need to own and drive cars.

Smoking, on the other hand, is a non essential activity that impacts negatively on others. If people want to smoke they should either do so with consideration for non smokers or be forced to contain their smoking to inside their own homes.

A lot of people do smoke in a way that is considerate to others. But a significant number don't and seem to assume that because there is no actual law against smoking outdoors, they don't have to think about anyone else around them if they want to light up.

Any complaints are met with a whinge fest about being 'driven outdoors' as if they're poor starving orphans being sent out into the cold. to huddle together for warmth.

I loathe and despise smoking. I have chronic health conditions which mean it's dangerous for me to be around second-hand smoke, so in my ideal world it would be completely banned in public, and certainly at places like bus stops. However this is never going to happen as it makes the government too much money.

*allowed

Everyone has their vices whether it's junk food, drinking, smoking, late nights - non of these are good for your health, so do you want everything that could possibly harm you banned?

No, but me eating junk food, having a drink, staying up late has NO effect on other people. Smoking does. I choose not to smoke so it is very unreasonable that I can still come home with clothes smelling of smoke from the people who congregate around doorways/bus stops etc smoking

I would like to know if any of the posters saying smoking outside should be banned are drivers? If they are, they are hypocrites.

Even electric car drivers ?

It's such a stupid habit anyway. It's expensive, it makes you smell, it kills you and people who don't smoke hate you.

Just quit and you'll be better off, you'll smell nice, you'll be healthier and people will like you.

Smokers should be considerate of others, no question about that. But I can't get too worked up about smoking outdoors. I have seen someone intentionally face a pram toward a busy road to avoid the perceived harm of a single cigarette being smoked 20 feet away. That is sheer idiocy.

BTW I'm not a smoker, never have been.

It's good and it's addictive but seriously, you should roll that stellar advice out nationwide.

brasty, nope. Tobacco revenue is approx £12bn. Cost to the nhs for smoking related illness is approx £6bn. Smokers are net contributers. And that is exactly why it won't be banned outright any time soon.

Its not necessarily a habit, nicotine is one of the most addictive substances there is, its not always a "just quit" type thing.

You wouldn't go up to a heroin addict and say "hey, just quit man :) " would you? Or an alcoholic? "Hey, just quit, its so easy"

No you wouldnt, unless you were a cunt.

My, you can pick out the selfish smokers here, can't you?! If a bus shelter is more than 50% enclosed, it's illegal to smoke in it. That excludes most bus shelters. I'm sick of sitting in the fumes from other people's cigarettes outside, and having to dodge their disgusting litter. YANBU.

Any complaints are met with a whinge fest about being 'driven outdoors' as if they're poor starving orphans being sent out into the cold. to huddle together for warmth

Unless it is a warm summer's day when most people would relish the opportunity to be outdoors when suddenly they claim the outdoors as theirs without complaint and argue that anyone not wanting to breathe their noxious fumes should huddle inside.

GahBuggerit - there are far more easily available methods to those that want to quit smoking though compared to drug use

*Its not necessarily a habit, nicotine is one of the most addictive substances there is, its not always a "just quit" type thing.

You wouldn't go up to a heroin addict and say "hey, just quit man smile " would you? Or an alcoholic? "Hey, just quit, its so easy*

Goodness, maybe it should simply be banned then?

I would turn cartwheels if smoking were banned within a radius of public buildings.

I deeply resent that I can get stuck next to a smoker in a public space and walk away with hair that smells like bloody cigarette smoke. If you to smell like warmed over death, fine - please leave me out of it.

Gahbuggerit

But would we also be 'cunts' if we objected to someone shooting up beside us at a cafe or the bus stop, or in front of us in the ATM queue?

It's not about giving up smoking, it's about not imposing it on other people.

Also, smokers, do the rest of us a favour and consider a mint. Your breath is vile. I know you can't tell because your sense of taste and smell is deadened, but ours isn't.

OP I was addressing the fool who said to just quit, not you, so your question is irrelevant.

but FWIW no, you wouldn't be a cunt. Obviously.

Just to wade in, I'm a smoker but I'm in full agreement with OP about smoking in public areas such as parks and school gates etc. I've never smoked indoor, although I know it clings to clothes etc, but quite apart from the health risks it looks awful. I'm sure there's a corner away from other people that these people can smoke. What upsets me more is the amount of people in their 20's who smoke, how stupid is that given all the info on health risks? (I'm in my 50's, still no excuse! ). I'm sick of seeing smoking in cars with children in the car, flouting the law. Those poor children.
I'm trying to give up & welcome restrictions.

MsHopey I bet everyone else in the queue were more bemused by your 'performance disgust' than the guy smoking.Coughing and spluttering? Turning your back and then holding on to your husband? hmm - I bet you made such a show of yourself. You talk as if he was holding you down and exhaling smoke into your mouth

It did sound a bit over dramatic. Persoanlly I would have asked the guy not to smoke so close to me rather than have an attack of the vapours....

Agree with you OP.
A lot of smokers have zero consideration for others. I wish it could be banned, but I doubt we will ever see the day.