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Charlie Gard Case 4

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LovelyBath77 · 11/07/2017 08:15

A new thread to follow on from the others about this case

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TinselTwins · 11/07/2017 20:13

It's disgusting. What does it matter to gt ormond st doctors if this child is given a chance to live by the USA? Oh yes, the NHS would be exposed for its social engineering, choosing who lives and who dies through their vast euthanasia programme ( aka End of life pathway nonsense). If this was a celebrities baby the hospital would not dare to hold Charliee hostage. Hmm

They're all in a tiz about the morphine too, posting on pictures of CG "look, no morphine, where's the morphine GOSH? Liars!"
Coz hospitals store all the meds their patients are on ON their beds right beside them at all times right?

LetsGoFlyAKiteee · 11/07/2017 20:15

LovelyBath77 this is like this girl..may be same one! It's not been confirmed and even says throughout the article suspected..yet only a few on CA have read it and pointed those parts out.Rest want it as evidence...

But how could that be shared with the parents when it proves nothing.

Lightlovelife · 11/07/2017 20:15
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BeefyCakes · 11/07/2017 20:17

It seems as though ca has a hive mind. They've made up their own facts and they believe them so strongly that to them it's true.

The parents are going through hell. Absolutely heart wrenching hell. They are clinging onto the tiniest sliver of hope.

It's almost like if they scream and shout the loudest, it'll change the situation. But it won't. Charlie is going to die. I just hope that they have access to mental health resources because it does seem as though they have been blinded by grief.

The hunz and the your baby your rules mob have done nothing to help this situation. I highly doubt they've read the court rulings. They've just read the fake facts and have lapped them up. The messages about him getting bigger, you can see he is not a well child.

The media isn't helping by using pictures of Charlie taken months ago.

I'm speechless at the merchandise, it's one thing to have items for sale to help a registered charity. But this is just using the situation to get money.

I hope Thursday brings an end to Charlie's suffering. And if the the parents challenge the ruling again that he be made a ward of court. Someone for charlie's sake needs to be impartial.

Ta1kinPeace · 11/07/2017 20:18

FB don't seem to care
I think they might after the court verdict I linked up thread ....
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754
Jail for FB threats ....

redshoeblueshoe · 11/07/2017 20:18

Ellie -all I can say to that is thank fuck for that that Ann Bev will not becoming to Britain.

Ta1kinPeace · 11/07/2017 20:18

FB don't seem to care
I think they might after the court verdict I linked up thread ....
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754
Jail for FB threats ....

BoreOfWhabylon · 11/07/2017 20:18

nocoolnamesleft
Thank you so much for your perfect post about how we feel (A&E nurse for more than 30 years). Although I don't remember all the adults we couldn't save, I remember every single one of the children. Can still see their little faces.

As for staff burnout, I have absolutely no doubt that, for some highly skilled and qualified doctors and nurses, this will be the final straw that causes them to leave the profession.

Ta1kinPeace · 11/07/2017 20:20

apologies for double post - MN glitched

IrritatedUser1960 · 11/07/2017 20:21

I cannot possibly imagine what the hospital staff have been going through for the last 18 months, it must be the most horrible, angry, suffocating environment ever not to mention they must be worried about their personal safety.
I wonder what has happened to the sick kids who need that intensive care bed while all this has been going on.

LovelyBath77 · 11/07/2017 20:21

The selling stuff reminds me of this weird set up for a health condition 'miracle cure' I read about. The daughter had been cured (but oddly was never heard from and seemed to have vanished), the mother had written a book and sold badges and stuff to 'raise awareness' It was all really odd. They were from the USA. Not sure would be allowed here. (not sure though). It affected me as I needed such a cure. they did all the same stuff, people were 'negative' if they didn't agree, and non positive posts got deleted. They would also do things like post pictures of food they could eat now they were 'cured' and tell you you had a death sentence of you went with the NHS. Nice.

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DixieNormas · 11/07/2017 20:21

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NotACleverName · 11/07/2017 20:21

Ann Bev doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the box.

TinselTwins · 11/07/2017 20:22

It's almost like if they scream and shout the loudest, it'll change the situation. But it won't. Charlie is going to die

and when you've repeatedly been told that the fact that you won't give up on his life is proof of how much you love him… eventually you might believe that that is the measure of your love so to let him go is to love him less

totallyliterally · 11/07/2017 20:24

@DixieNormas I had a look and it seems you can take money out as soon as you like

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Ta1kinPeace · 11/07/2017 20:25

Oh blimey, I just had a thought.
CA are fighting for Charlie and a lot will have donated money in one way or another.
What are the odds they will turn on the parents and want their money back when they realise that Charlie never had a fighting chance?
Hell hath no fury and that.

In which case I'll not begrudge the parents a bit of the money to go somewhere with no internet for a couple of months

MommaGee · 11/07/2017 20:25

If the judge decides that the life support system needs to be turned off I think he also needs to stipulate a time and date

TinselTwins · 11/07/2017 20:25

I wonder what has happened to the sick kids who need that intensive care bed while all this has been going on

I would put money on it that CGs nurses are always the higher band ones in the unit! NOT because I think COSH give anyone preferential treatment, but because it would be inappropriate to have any newer members of staff under than kind of scrutiny.

I absolutely disagree with the PP who said it would be business as usual there at the moment!

LovelyBath77 · 11/07/2017 20:28

*Talkinpeace

FB don't seem to care
I think they might after the court verdict I linked up thread ....
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754
Jail for FB threats ....*

So reporting it all to FB might be of use? Or report elsewhere?

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TinselTwins · 11/07/2017 20:29

What are the odds they will turn on the parents and want their money back when they realise that Charlie never had a fighting chance?

I don't think that'll happen
I think they're primarily enjoying being part of something and seem to compete about who is closest to connie (e.g. her pregnancy group who keep reminding everyone that they supported C first )
But they'll slip away fairly fast - attention spans and all that, they'll be back to telling everyone on NMs and FB not to co-operate with social services because they are scheming to steal all-da-babies!

MommaGee · 11/07/2017 20:29

I wonder what has happened to the sick kids who need that intensive care bed while all this has been going on
Until this had gone through Court and a final decision made and a reasonable date set, Charlie is the kid who needs this bed. He still does. There will always be kids in PICU for whom there is little hope, whose parents need extra time. You don't just say no because you need their bed

LovelyBath77 · 11/07/2017 20:29

Ok, so it is fine to just withdraw the (2 million is it?) from Gofund me.

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LovelyBath77 · 11/07/2017 20:30

Yes I saw the same comment Dixie saw.

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DixieNormas · 11/07/2017 20:31

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GabsAlot · 11/07/2017 20:31

i agree momma

last hearing they jut stalled for time then startd saying there was new evidnce it needs to be set this time