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Charlie Gard Case 3

954 replies

LovelyBath77 · 10/07/2017 14:15

A new thread to carry on from the previous ones about the case

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nina2b · 10/07/2017 19:55

The Judge has GOT to hold some of those people in contempt of court. Why the hell should they get away with calling the hardworking, skilled and decent medical staff at GOSH, "murderers"?

Yamayo · 10/07/2017 19:57

I think they're hoping end of July is so close to Charlie's birthday the hospital will feel sorry for them and delay proceedings till then.
They can then play the 'no-one expected this to live till his first birthday' card.

I fear those poor parents just can't deal with Charlie's life ending. Obviously that is the case in all end of life situations but it feels that they have poured everything in their situation and their ridiculous 'army' 'has elevated them to a bizarre worshipful position.
When Charlie dies they will lose everything.

CaveMum · 10/07/2017 19:58

It was suggested earlier that perhaps the parents are trying to get to Charlie's 1st Birthday. That may be the case, and I understand their desperation, but what then? Another Christmas together, another birthday?

Thinking in the CA page and reporting it to the Police (Facebook are useless IMHO, I once reported a pornographic picture of a woman having sex with a horse that appeared on my newsfeed and they rejected my complaint Hmm), perhaps people should email/tweet a link to the Metropolitan Police? Presumably GOSH falls under their remit and if people are making threats they will be the ones to deal with it.

BoreOfWhabylon · 10/07/2017 19:58

According to the linked Guardian article, the original publicist has been ditched in favour of this 'pastor'. I've copied and pasted the following:

Alison Smith-Squire from Feature World was acting as the spokeswoman for Charlie’s parents until she was usurped by Mahoney last week. She is now concerned that Mahoney is using Charlie’s plight as a political and religious crusade.

She said: “Connie and Chris have been the sweetest and most genuine people I’ve worked with. I feel they are in a very vulnerable situation and having got all this publicity, Mahoney appears to be seizing on their case to make the most of it.”

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She added: “I helped to raise the profile of their case in a very sensitive way and never asked for any money from them. Initially I advised Connie and Chris not to approach the media but to try to resolve the case behind closed doors. I wanted Gosh and the family to mediate and come to some arrangement.

“Only when it came to court did we cautiously approach the media. The story then became so big that it reached the attention of the pope and Donald Trump. After Trump tweeted things started to change. I was no longer in regular contact with Connie.

“From the day Trump tweeted he [Mahoney] had been there, wheeling his way in with his supporters. I tried to tell Connie that this could be negative for her, but she didn’t come back. And they seemed to be being told to take a much more confrontational approach with Gosh. It was wrong to march to the hospital. All the doctors there have got a very difficult job, and I felt it would be disruptive.

“I was looking after them in an ethical way and I was keen to pursue a non-confrontational approach with Gosh in the interests of everybody involved.”

Lightlovelife · 10/07/2017 19:58

For an AIBU thread this has been very helpful and measured. Thank you to everyone who has contributed.
I don't think the mother is lying, I think she genuinely believes everything she says. I agree with some other posters and she has been used by others for their own ends, especially the American pastor. The strain is beginning to show.

Yamayo · 10/07/2017 19:58

Also re the 10% chance scenario.

Chance of what exactly? Because a lot of their followers think he be sitting and talking soon.

PlaidMaid · 10/07/2017 20:00

JaneEyre79 completely agree. Surely if they had the evidence they'd want it before a judge ASAP so Charlie could begin the treatment. I think they were trying to stall in the hope the US would step in in the meantime. And later this week they'll be found out. Which just makes this whole situation harder and sadder for everyone involved, not least poor Charlie.

11122aa · 10/07/2017 20:01

GOSH does fall under the Met's area as it is in Camden Council.

totallyliterally · 10/07/2017 20:02

@BoreOfWhabylon those quotes... and if someone who works for the PR company says that someone is bad, wow.

It is utterly out of control.

53rdWay · 10/07/2017 20:02

I really hope the parents still have somebody in their lives who can take them aside and say: "look, you've done everything you possibly could. If this was the kind of problem you could beat by campaigning and fundraising, we all know you'd have done it four times over. But it's not that kind of problem and it's time to stop. You need to go and be with your baby now."

rabbitcakes · 10/07/2017 20:03

It would so much better for the parents to spend his last days by his bedside. They could be preparing for after, spending peaceful time with him and getting the support they will need from professionals rather than continually in a media circus and to and from court.

This is so unhealthy for their mental well being but they are too deep in all of it to ever see.

11122aa · 10/07/2017 20:03

It is out of control and I have no idea how it will end.

Nquartz · 10/07/2017 20:05

MrGrumpy Connie was quoting statistics on whatever GMTV is now called yesterday morning. Her & the host (Kate Garraway?) both got confused

Notknownatthisaddress · 10/07/2017 20:06

In terms of the 10% I'm sure I read on here that the mum had said it has a 1 in 10 000 chance 'so 10%' and no one corrected her.

I heard her say that too. I thought 'surely she isn't that thick?' Confused

It's 0.010 % Which is WAAAAAAAY lower than chuffing 10%! 1000 times lower actually!

Notknownatthisaddress · 10/07/2017 20:07

@1122aa It's out of control all right!

I am actually quite worried about how it will all end.

I can't be alone in wishing the poor wee mite would pass away in his sleep. Put an end to his misery, and all this madness. Sad

LetsGoFlyAKiteee · 10/07/2017 20:08

Wow some people on there commenting on how it's become a circus..That's be the end of them

DarthMaiden · 10/07/2017 20:09

@53rdWay

I think they have now surrounded themselves with people who very much have their own agenda - one in which Charlie is not the over riding concern.

Lexieblue · 10/07/2017 20:10

What happened to that lawyer that waded in immediately after Trump tweeted? He said there was another round of appeals at ECHR but nothing since?
This is what I mean about "kindly meant" support giving false hope. It's cruel because they are clearly desperate for any chink of light and who can blame them?

Maudlinmaud · 10/07/2017 20:10

Very interesting statement from the original PR company. This has certainly snow balled since the high profile tweets. I really do think.the parents are being exploited and manipulated by insidious individuals and organisations. I hope to god they see sense soon.

nina2b · 10/07/2017 20:10

Lots of people have used the word "circus" because it IS a circus.

retainertrainer · 10/07/2017 20:11

I don't think it's fair that these members of 'Charlie's army' are able to spout such nonsense in his or his parents name. I hope the page is either taken down or moderated in some way.

LetsGoFlyAKiteee · 10/07/2017 20:12

Think this latest news have caused cracks to appear in the army lot..a fair few hmmm messages on there that won't be for long.

All the while Charlie is left hanging :-(

sodablackcurrant · 10/07/2017 20:13

Follow the money.

LapinR0se · 10/07/2017 20:14

Just wanted to summarise what we learned today:

  • GOSH do not believe there is any "new evidence" since the last hearing
  • the 10% improvement claim appears to be unsubstantiated
  • Charlie's patents have until end of Wednesday to provide written evidence that may impact court decision
  • GOSH say that Charlie's head circumference has not changed in 3 months
  • Charlie is being administered morphine as he may be in pain
  • there will be another hearing on Thursday, with the same judge who has presided over the case to date, but final judgement may not be until Friday
Anything missing?
sashh · 10/07/2017 20:14

redshoeblueshoe

Interesting that my mum's basis was RC faith, but she was a convert, and they do sy they are the most fervent.

As for Twitter - I'm stepping away now, the US has woken up and apparently obamacare means there will lots of Charlie Gard's in the US.