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To think MILs 'help' is a step too far?

167 replies

Ramona87 · 06/07/2017 07:58

My MIL and I get on well and whilst she has some ways that I find strange and sometimes annoying I've never (and would never) vocalise this to her as would hate to offend her. I can talk to her about most things and we go generally have a relatively close relationship.
Bit of background, MIL and FIL look after my DS twice a week in our home when I'm at work part time which I'm extremely grateful for and DS loves the pair of them dearly. MIL takes it upon herself to help out, doing ironing, changing bins, often rearranging our furniture so that it is 'less cluttered', or replacing random items in our home for things she feels are better. Whilst I am appreciative of the sentiment I often feel that some of this 'help' is not her place to do. And she should respect us and our choices about our home a little more, regardless of her own opinion.
So a few days ago I came home from work really ill, I'd gotten that Norovirus and was vomiting and the other thing. They were at home with DS and kindly told me to go and have a lie down upstairs and they would stay until they normally would a few hours later when DP got in from work, so I gratefully did this. The day after was my day off anyway, but MIL again kindly offered to help out if I wasn't feeling good, and said she was picking her other DGD (DPs niece) up from school (which is in our town, she lives around 45 mins away) so she would be around anyway. The next morning after she text me to ask if I needed her to take DS out for an hour or so before she picked other DGD up from school I accepted, on the premise that she wouldn't be making a special trip. She turned up and immediately said she had cancelled picking up other grandson from school incase she passed anything onto him, and brought with her anti bacterial surface and floor wipes, bleach, and hand sanitiser. I thanked her for this and was grateful for her help. She then said she had brought some of her own bedding and towels from her own cupboard to replace ours with, and that she was going to take our current ones back home with her to wash. Again I thanked her but told her we did have other bedding so was no need for us to use hers, and that washing it ourselves was no problem, but she insisted and took all of the towels from our bathroom and started stripping my bed. As I knew she was trying to help I just allowed her to do it. She then started saying our bedding needed throwing out and we needed new ones, and commenting on the fact that 'you don't change your bedding very often- I do mine twice a week, so I don't mind helping'. I was mortified. I felt so embarrassed that she was passing judgement on our bedding, and find it odd that she even goes into our bedroom enough to notice how often we change it. It was obvious I felt offended and she said "hope I'm not interfering" to which I bit my tongue and told her she was not. But the more I think about it the more I think this is the equivalent of me going to a family members or friends house, and cleaning saying "you don't clean enough and I don't mind doing it", I feel it's insulting despite her intention to 'help'. She is a very fussy woman who has a tendency to go over the top, she always says things like "I just have to help people" but I feel sometimes it's not a help at all it's a bit backhanded. Or am I being over sensitive and whingey?!

OP posts:
manicmij · 07/07/2017 19:56

Every time I visit son and DIL for a couple of weeks to see GS I usually do washing, ironing, cleaning, gardening, cooking, childminding all just to help out. I try very hard to recognise boundaries and clothing/bedding I have washed and ironed I just place at top of stairs to be picked up and put away by them. I do out GS's clothing away he's 6 now and tidy up his drawers. My DIL is always grateful and jokes I am like a housekeeper when visiting. Her friends ask if she would hire me out! Think your MIL is just needing a nudge about her role and you should try and be more assertive about what you like her doing e.g. furniture moving. Just you tried it the way she had arranged but found it awkward because............ hence you moved it back. Does sound as if she is trying to help though.

Savelli · 07/07/2017 20:02

Sounds like we have similar husbands as well...

Savelli · 07/07/2017 20:03

The thing with controlling people like this is they know what they're doing- she's coming across as innocent "I just want to help darling" to her son and she's very clever to do so. I've heard mine on the phone to DH when she doesn't know I'm there and she actually speaks in a flirty baby voice- it's very alarming.

Aria2015 · 07/07/2017 20:14

I'm in a similar position but ultimately I just bite my tongue. At the end of the day I get free childcare and don't have to do any drop offs or pick ups so I'm incredibly lucky and feel like I can suck up a few irritating / interfering incidents in return.

The one thing I have done is tell mil she's not allowed in our bedroom. It was freaking me out to find my knickers folded on my bed and so the no bedroom policy was born lol!

Ps. I suspect my mil doesn't think we change our sheets enough either but can't say anything because of the bedroom ban! Wink

user1498983411 · 07/07/2017 20:14

Some people would give there wright arm for free child care, and someone helping out with chores, I know MIL is a pain sometimes but ask yourself would it be even worth going to work if u had to pay for child care, also don't forget the school holidays!! Of course you could always start taking to kids to there house!! Problem sorted!!

Justgivemeamo · 07/07/2017 21:00

Very very passive aggressive behaviour. She's basically telling you you don't look adter her son or her grandkids to the same standard she would/did/does. Total one-upmanship and actually very creepy. Who replaces other people's possessions?

^^ yes. Because as savelli said " does she do this in other peoples homes or just yours".....she feels she can.

My DM would never ever have done this in db and sils home ever - but yes my MIL has done this to me/us. I was very passive aggressive in my response, counsillor said this was a bad idea and to say " please dont re arrange things in my home, I like them how they are. "

Minaktinga · 07/07/2017 22:20

I was really poorly last winter and had no one I could call on to help. Wish I'd had that kind of support.

Flisspaps · 07/07/2017 22:41

All these people saying 'I wish I had this help' - I'd agree if it was just childcare, or a one-off clean when you were in dire straits.

This is different. OP's home is basically a giant dolls house for MIL to rearrange and play with as she sees fit. That's not an appropriate way to treat another adult's property, regardless of what childcare help they give.

It's fucking rude.

sashadasher · 07/07/2017 23:37

It's a control thing,yes she helps and seems great in many ways as did mine but you pay back for this help in other ways.Over many years the lines blur and the irritation on your part will grow as the boldness on hers increases.I have learnt that people only treat you In the way that you allow them.I'm sorry to say you can't complain if you said to her it's fine whenever she overstep what you consider boundaries because you haven't given her boundaries.I think if you introduce sudden new boundaries to things that were seen as no prob before she will get very upset and maybe family fall out will happen.....if you however can afford childcare but would prefer privacy there is nothing stopping your dc going to see mil at her house for visits instead.....will save your sanity in long run!...I was in similar situ but without childcare,everything was all wrapped up under a blanket of good intention but every time I gave her the slightest boundary she just steamrolled me ,I never got DH backing as he knew his place!....after 10 long outrageously progressive years she went in a huff.The sheer bliss!!! In end it was best thing she ever did for me... sorry for essay but your post sounds like the ramp up to my middle years,things you bite your tongue over and rant after.....put your foot down NOW be a bit more assertive ..good luck x

user1476641978 · 08/07/2017 00:52

I think most MILs are Marie from Everybody Loves Raymond!

ItsGone · 08/07/2017 02:38

It's amazing how differently people interpret the MILs actions.

It's impossible to know if the MIL is pottering about, not thinking about things and tidying up as she goes in the mistaken belief that's she is being helpful or whether she is a scheming bitch who wants to send a clear message to the OP that she thinks she is a slattern and is incapable of looking after her precious son as she sees fit.

Anyway OP. I still think you are being very unfair to your MIL by not telling her what you would and wouldn't like her to do. You've said you can be assertive with things concerning your child so it would be a reasonable assumption to think you would let your MIL know if you had a problem about her tidying up. It makes no odds what her intentions are, if you don't bother to speak to her about it nothing will change.

I don't know why you think it's such an issue? Just talk to her..,.....

damewithaname · 08/07/2017 05:36

That would get me all fired up! Don't rearrange my space. If I wanted to live with you, I would move back home...

AmyAmoeba · 08/07/2017 06:32

ok thought experiment:

She says "I'm not being too interfering, am I ?"
You say " ah, yes you are" in a light hearted tone and laugh.

Try it in front of the mirror.

You can say the words in your head (that come from an irritated place) in a pleasant way. It really doesn't have to be unpleasant and confrontational. It takes a lot of practice when you're used to swallowing words.

I'm not saying that you should be sarcastic, or passive aggressive, or unkind in a sweet voice. But you can be honest in a kind, light hearted way.

could you imagine sitting down with her for a coffee and saying, " so what's with the furniture arranging? Why do you keep doing that?"
Say it crossly, say it aggressively, and say it with kindness and humour.

Boundaries are a two way thing and it sounds like yours are a bit weak. I understand not wanting to give offence and sometimes on mumsnet it feels like you're either a doormat or you ride roughshod over everyone else. You absolutely can be true to your own standards of politeness and kindness and be honest and firm too.

Soslowmo · 08/07/2017 07:00

I would love all that help....but I would absolutely hate my MIL changing our bedding and commenting on it like that.

Not as bad as yours, but we have all the bedroom windows wide open during spring / summer - whenever FIL comes over to babysit, he takes it upon himself to close them all to an angle acceptable to him! Hmm Highly annoying!

EezerGoode · 08/07/2017 09:42

Oh my fucking god....I've 4 kids,I'm not coping ,I've not a single relative to help me....I would give anything to have your mother in law...please send her my way,she would be fully appreciated and I'd be eternally greatful.

Ramona87 · 08/07/2017 10:46

Thanks amy I will give it a go. Wouldn't say I'm a doormat but do struggle to set boundaries with MIL as would hate to rock the boat, and/or cause an argument with DP, sometimes I figure it's easier for me to be silently pissed off rather than cause any upset with everyone else. But I know that has martyr written all over it really and there's ways of saying it that are still polite. Will work on it thanks!
soslow I get the window thing. MIL often comes into our bedroom and opens our windows and then it's absolutely Baltic at night!
eazer sorry you're struggling and have no one to help. As I've said I realise we are very lucky to have her and I fully appreciate all of the things she does to help us. But anyone who says they would appreciate somebody rearranging their home, being judgmental about their bedding and replacing their things is lying. Those things I don't appreciate. But that doesn't take away from all of the many things I am eternally grateful for that she does do to help us.

OP posts:
MsJudgemental · 08/07/2017 20:30

She is being controlling, just like my mother with whom my sister and I are both NC. No matter how much help she gives, if she is poking around in your things, changing your furniture and your bedding, this is WAY overstepping the boundaries. Be honest and bite this in the bud before it's too late.

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