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To think MILs 'help' is a step too far?

167 replies

Ramona87 · 06/07/2017 07:58

My MIL and I get on well and whilst she has some ways that I find strange and sometimes annoying I've never (and would never) vocalise this to her as would hate to offend her. I can talk to her about most things and we go generally have a relatively close relationship.
Bit of background, MIL and FIL look after my DS twice a week in our home when I'm at work part time which I'm extremely grateful for and DS loves the pair of them dearly. MIL takes it upon herself to help out, doing ironing, changing bins, often rearranging our furniture so that it is 'less cluttered', or replacing random items in our home for things she feels are better. Whilst I am appreciative of the sentiment I often feel that some of this 'help' is not her place to do. And she should respect us and our choices about our home a little more, regardless of her own opinion.
So a few days ago I came home from work really ill, I'd gotten that Norovirus and was vomiting and the other thing. They were at home with DS and kindly told me to go and have a lie down upstairs and they would stay until they normally would a few hours later when DP got in from work, so I gratefully did this. The day after was my day off anyway, but MIL again kindly offered to help out if I wasn't feeling good, and said she was picking her other DGD (DPs niece) up from school (which is in our town, she lives around 45 mins away) so she would be around anyway. The next morning after she text me to ask if I needed her to take DS out for an hour or so before she picked other DGD up from school I accepted, on the premise that she wouldn't be making a special trip. She turned up and immediately said she had cancelled picking up other grandson from school incase she passed anything onto him, and brought with her anti bacterial surface and floor wipes, bleach, and hand sanitiser. I thanked her for this and was grateful for her help. She then said she had brought some of her own bedding and towels from her own cupboard to replace ours with, and that she was going to take our current ones back home with her to wash. Again I thanked her but told her we did have other bedding so was no need for us to use hers, and that washing it ourselves was no problem, but she insisted and took all of the towels from our bathroom and started stripping my bed. As I knew she was trying to help I just allowed her to do it. She then started saying our bedding needed throwing out and we needed new ones, and commenting on the fact that 'you don't change your bedding very often- I do mine twice a week, so I don't mind helping'. I was mortified. I felt so embarrassed that she was passing judgement on our bedding, and find it odd that she even goes into our bedroom enough to notice how often we change it. It was obvious I felt offended and she said "hope I'm not interfering" to which I bit my tongue and told her she was not. But the more I think about it the more I think this is the equivalent of me going to a family members or friends house, and cleaning saying "you don't clean enough and I don't mind doing it", I feel it's insulting despite her intention to 'help'. She is a very fussy woman who has a tendency to go over the top, she always says things like "I just have to help people" but I feel sometimes it's not a help at all it's a bit backhanded. Or am I being over sensitive and whingey?!

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DownstairsMixUp · 06/07/2017 18:05

Only on mumsnet would you have to put up with this as a price for childcare! What a load of bollocks. My mil would never dream of doing that if she looked after the kids, it'd called not being a rude arse.Confused

yorkshapudding · 06/07/2017 18:11

OP you won't be able to win here.

You should be thankful for all the help- even if it comes with lots of strings attached, implicit criticism and you are made to feel uncomfortable in your own home! You should realise this is your own fault for getting "free childcare" and you should pay for it instead. But you should also realise that if you take that advice and tell your MIL she is no longer looking after your DC she will most likely be devastated and you will be accused of "MIL bashing" and witholding access to the DGC.

Only on MN are people expected to be grateful for someone rearranging their things without permission and giving unsolicited advice about how often to change their sheets.

yorkshapudding · 06/07/2017 18:12

X post with Downstairs Grin

user1499359004 · 06/07/2017 18:31

Wow your a lucky lady to have a MIL like you do!!!

Enjoy it Girl!!!!

If she enjoys taking care of you its her thing by the sound of it some people just enjoy it. As long as shes coming from a good place which it sound like she is I would let her at it.

If not ill be her daughter in law send her my way lolxxx

Sushi123 · 06/07/2017 18:52

Savemebarry, I totally understand, 'that's just the way she is' is no excuse for those who have bad manners or behaviour, however ya have to pick your battles...a few years ago I'd have been all for having it out with the mil, especially if it was at an early stage in the relationship, but in this case it seems a bit too late for that...(I've mellowed quite a bit)

Hortonlovesahoo · 06/07/2017 18:56

Totally overstepping in my opinion. My MIL tried to do the same and I demanded the key back.

Stand up for yourself and get some boundaries defined. Childcare or not

Increasinglymiddleaged · 06/07/2017 18:59

She sounds a bit like my MIL. She needs to respect that you are an adult, not a child and that it is your house. It took mine about 10 years to stop doing the ironing which isn't even helpful as I iron nothing at all.

But she means well by the sound of it, like mine. I try my best to love MIL she's one of the people in the world who cares most us all but she makes it hard sometimes Smile

AnyFarrahFowler · 06/07/2017 19:55

OP I understand - my PIL provide free childcare 1 day a week and I am incredibly grateful to them. However, MIL sees my house as an extension of her own and rearranged things (I make a point of putting it all back exactly as it was and she doesn't really do this any more). DH also had to speak to her about her not going into our bedroom as I felt that was crossing a boundary. I think she still feels she needs to "look after" DH and that I don't do enough for him, but he's a grown man and we both work!
I'm leaving my job soon to be a SAHM so we won't need their help soon, and we can go back to 2-3 hour visits instead of having them in our house every week. Hopefully that will get our relationship back on track.

CPtart · 06/07/2017 20:00

Matilda - but you won't feel guilty for them paying for care instead of being 'expected' to provide it yourself, if they hadn't been so heavily involved in your lives earlier. It seems some people expect to have it their own way all round simply by virtue of their age and 'seniority'.

LionsOnTour · 06/07/2017 21:29

I don't understand what's stopping you talking to her about it? It doesn't have to be a drama or a big thing. You like her and you appreciate a lot of the stuff she does so why can't you simply tell her exactly what it is that she does that you don't like.

I actually think it's unfair to NOT tell her. She can't read your mind and when she ASKED you said it was ok 🤷🏻‍♀️. Just make sure you are clear about what you want.

If I were her I would much, much rather you spoke to me.

guinea36 · 06/07/2017 22:01

These threads by people moaning about relatives offering 'too much help' really annoy me.
You do realise that many people would be desperate for someone to do some tidying, changing a bed etc!

maudeismyfavouritepony · 06/07/2017 22:38

Look. No childcare is ever free .This is the price you pay. It's fuck all really and on balance, you have a lovely MIL who takes care of you.

Suck it up or pay for childcare.

Heratnumber7 · 06/07/2017 22:41

I still want to know why you change bedding twice a week!

Ramona87 · 06/07/2017 23:41

guinea and maude I feel like you haven't read the full thread. I'm not complaining there's 'too much help'Hmm. It's that there a lack of boundaries. If I was to turn up at someone's house and started 'helping' out with cleaning without being asked, commenting how dirty it was, I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't always find that helpful, and would be offended. It seems that no matter how much you specify how appreciative you are and how wonderful on the whole your MIL is, you can never get away from the "you're so ungrateful" brigade, even when she has made me feel uncomfortable in my own home.
And to 'pay for childcare or get on with it'- I wish I had that much of a simplistic view on the situation! Sadly it's far more complex. However, I have been, and probably will always continue to 'suck it up' (for the most part) as I know how lucky we are for all the things she does do to help.

As pp's have said, only on MN have I come across this mentality, and you can't win either way with the MIL thing. FYI, id feel 100% the same if this were my mother.

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 06/07/2017 23:47

She sounds fab,I wouldn't go anywhere near a noro virus house!!Shock

Earlyriser84 · 06/07/2017 23:53

She can be my stand in MIL if she likes! Grin

SunnyCoco · 07/07/2017 07:42

I don't understand how she knows how often you change your bedsheets?

TDHManchester · 07/07/2017 07:50

Honestly, i know it can be annoying and feel a bit interfering but please just bite your tongue. MIL doesnt mean to be interfering etc etc and if you say anything she will be deeply hurt and offended...just let it wash over you and accept all help with good grace...try and find mechanisms for dealing with it.

Think how hard life would be without MILs FREE yes FREE help that she willingly and lovingly gives..

user1499333856 · 07/07/2017 07:53

Nobody has the right to be overbearing in your own home and make you feel uncomfortable. People saying otherwise need to get a grip

strikealight · 07/07/2017 08:15

If my very nice and helpful mil went into my bedroom and changed my bed I would be having stern words about boundaries.
I know she still sees my (in his 40s) dh as her ickle baby but .. just NO.

Chillyegg · 07/07/2017 08:24

She sounds lovely

Ramona87 · 07/07/2017 08:41

sunnycoco she's obviously in our room a lot by the sounds of things.
Yer as I've said in PPs and said my OP, I never would vocalise any of this to her, at least not in a 'big awkward chat' kind of way. Maybe if I can find the moment to address something quickly as it when it happens then yer. But yer user I do agree that I shouldn't just feel okay with her being really intrusive and crossing boundaries just because she's providing free childcare. Obviously I value my relationship with her and the help she gives up far too much to rock the boat, but still think I'm within my rights to feel pissed off about it.

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SunnyCoco · 07/07/2017 09:01

Yes of course you can feel pissed off about it.
But at the end of the day, she asked you outright if she was overstepping the mark and you said no...

Sometimes the cheapest way to pay for childcare is with money

Ramona87 · 07/07/2017 09:09

She asked if she was interfering only when it was extremely obvious that I was offended and embarrassed by her comment. I said something like "oh well we must just be scruffy then as we don't change ours twice a week!". If I'd have responded at that moment with "yes you are interfering!" it would have made for a very awkward and tense situation (even more than it already was). She didn't ask this because it occurred to her she might be, it usually wouldn't occur to her for a second. It's only because it was already very obvious that she was interfering by my reaction to her comment. I wish I could be bold enough to tell her in a more upfront way but as I've said I just want to keep the peace.

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SunnyCoco · 07/07/2017 09:10

Righto! 🙄