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Separated fathers not paying maintenance

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Pankhurst09 · 04/07/2017 01:16

My separated husband has been paying maintenance for almost 2 years. I have done everything to keep things settled for my children. I've even pushed for access, encouraged it. I eventually drew the line when he had yet another social outing on his night (we have no other childcare) and I said, no, sorry, I have something else planned. He went anyway, again, and blamed me for not seeing our children and used the fact that I had a night out as reason to stop paying maintenance for his children.

So, I have learned that;
1; I must tow the line
2; I must tow the line
3; I must tow the line

4;I can't tow the line, it's not in me to... tow the line!!!!

BUT, if I don't tow the line, here's the deal.

In the UK I feel utterly let down as the main care giver, I feel trapped and under represented and at the mercy of our outdated, misogynistic court system.

I will tell you why. I have no faith, none whatsoever in a system that should protect our most vulnerable and ensure that their stable existence remains that way.

I'm going to go on anecdotal for now as that is all I have, and it terrifies me. I'm not stupid though, I've researched the courts stance, past cases etc... to give myself a reasonable grounding of the reality but the scary thing is, it still seems to remain somewhat of a lottery! A lottery for my children and your children and their security and welfare!

I have many anecdotal stories from friends/acquaintances that all sing the same tune, "the judge wasn't interested", "hadn't read the notes". "It's all about the fathers rights". "They don't care if they leave you in financial hardship". "The children's views were not taken into consideration"

My husband walked out on me and our two children, two years ago! I was devastated, dumbfounded, on my knees! BUT I had to keep going, I had no choice. I NEVER stopped him seeing them. I was told of cheating etc... I asked for mediation which he refused. I went through the mill and so did my children despite his refusal to acknowledge it. This is where it could get messy. 2 sides to every story, of course there is. What I believe to be non negotiators are;
1; unconditional love ❤️
2; unconditional support

If both mum and dad adhere to these very simple rules the children no matter what will feel secure.

Fathers in the UK at the moment can STOP payments without warning, without recourse. That is utterly wrong. If you want unconditional access then you should be accountable. You expect unconditional love from your children, they have not asked to be in this situation therefore you should return the unconditional love... and support. Yes, go through CSA etc... BUT that takes time and a fight and results in emotional damage to both the main care giver and children. When will the system protect the children? When we all say enough is enough.

Feeling very let down. My sole mortgage application was just about completed and has been ruined as he just 'decided' to stop paying any maintenance. The system sucks and needs a complete overhaul to protect our children. Where would my children be if I just 'decided' to stop caring for or paying for them?

OP posts:
Pankhurst09 · 15/07/2017 12:38

Emily you are right they should be viewed in the same way as benefit fraudsters but they are not even accountable. It is so wrong.

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Pankhurst09 · 15/07/2017 12:41

Jimmysmum £7 a week! That is disgusting. How can any system justify that amount?!! Even if you were homeless and on benefits you would still contribute more than £7 a week to your child to simply keep them healthy and alive never mind all the other major expenses that go with parenting. How can any system accept that and justify it?! How is that even possible in a supposedly civilised society? I don't understand it.

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LowGravity · 15/07/2017 17:05

Lowgravity- any news? I have had everything crossed for you!

Sorry been away for a few days, no news yet. Apparently appeals can take several months, no surprises there, so not expecting to hear anything anytime soon. What's really pissed me off is the fact that they're just taking his word for it and also he was underpaying for most of last year but won't be expected to pay that back yet when my income dropped I was told by DWP it hadn't dropped enough for my tax credits to increase as they go on previous years income! Why does this not apply to CM? Particularly as it wasn't my choice for my case to change from CSA to CMS and they're happy to review the amount for him but won't even consider calling HMRC when I requested a review! aargh so frustrating.
I will be sure to post when I hear anything.

Pankhurst09 · 15/07/2017 18:54

Absolutely disgraceful Low Gravity- all completely valid points, the system does indeed suck. What's to happen in the months you are waiting?! Oh that's right you have to hold it all together. You absolutely should be getting back dated payments for your son too. Why on earth are they not accountable under this system.

I will keep everything crossed and hope it moves forward as quickly as possible.

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user1476869312 · 15/07/2017 19:05

There seems to be this idea that women just have to suck it up, and it's their own fault for a) letting a man impregnate them and b) not 'keeping' the man, whether by accepting his right to enforce his wishes by violence, or excusing constant breaches of monogamy, or devoting herself to 24/7 service and obedience.

It really doesn't have to be like that. Men are not all shits and those that are should be punished. I am a single parent, and my DS' dad and I have a very amicable relationship. He pays £250 a month, plus occasional extras, sees DS generally twice a week, and we quite often go on outings and even holidays together. We are just not a couple..

Starlight2345 · 15/07/2017 19:37

user147 ... This is what I said earlier...No one is saying there aren't great NRP out there who support their children emotionally and practically , however there are far too many NRP out there who don't even pay the legal minimum or play the system esp. self employed to avoid playing.

JimmysMum1988 · 15/07/2017 19:56

OP that is the guideline amount on the CSA website Angry

JimmysMum1988 · 15/07/2017 19:57

£7 wouldn't even pay for the milk that my youngest drinks

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