To think it's inevitable that JC will be PM and TM should just let it happen ASAP

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They are now pretty much at the same popularity and in the years to come there will be millions more Labour voters and millions of Tory voters that will pass away. It's pretty much a done deal right? So why doesn't TM just go now?

I think its a shame the way political discourse is going in this country atm. I think to call the Tories "poisonous" when more people have voted for them than for any other party is divisive and unpleasant and disrespectful to all the people who voted for them.

But you can call Labour and JC all sorts?

People can call the Tories whatever they like. Disrespectful to their voters..don't make me laugh.

Well Tories didn't get a majority either? I think May supporters need to remember the only reason she's still in power is because she went cap in hand to a homophobic party to keep her own job. It's not really something to be admired.

Exactly. And stop with the labour lots by alot, they got 2.3% less in the popular vote. That is not lots.

Well Tories didn't get a majority either? I think May supporters need to remember the only reason she's still in power is because she went cap in hand to a homophobic party to keep her own job. It's not really something to be admired.

Exactly. And stop with the labour lots by alot, they got 2.3% less in the popular vote. That is not lots.

On the surface NI also appears to have a much better infrastruxture than Scotland already. Roads, schools are visibly better maintained. Which is as it should be. But investment should be spread fairly and not as a bribe.

Its as it should be that the roads are schools are maintained, not that they are better than Scotland's.

I think to call the Tories "poisonous" when more people have voted for them than for any other party is divisive and unpleasant and disrespectful to all the people who voted for them.

Really crossword calling tories poisoness is disrespectful to those who voted for her?

Now, what IS disrespectful is initially refusing to meet grenfell victims because of 'security concerns'. Security concerns that far-fetched bad that even the Queen shower up with a low police presence with very little consequence. Standing up in parliament insisting on how we need to carry on with our austerity plans whilst bunging her new DUP mates £1bn to keep her job and the Tories in power.

Oh then there's the issue of the tories CHEERING when they voted to keep the paycap of every single emergency services that have broke their neck in recent years on less funding doing so too.. The Nurses who still help terrorists, and the police who still run to danger to save others. The paramedics who have ro prioritise which critically ill people to get to first because they're isn't a big enough fleet to attend all (some areas had to sell some you see - funding issues). Then there's the hundreds of firefighters that risked their lives to save people young and old in grenfell. They went back in time and time again to try and help. Not only were they not seen as worth lifting the paycap, the tories CHEERED when it was not passed.

Yet I'M disrespectful for daring to have my own opinion. In that case I'm more than happy to wear that title!

Indeeed FinallyThroughTheRoof.

Totally okay for the May supporters to call JC a terrorist sympathiser though!

But you can call Labour and JC all sorts?

People can call the Tories whatever they like. Disrespectful to their voters..don't make me laugh

I'm not sure what you believe I have called Labour and JC? I try to discuss politics in a reasonable, non insulting and non-hyperbolic way. Do point out where I have not.

Yes, people can call Tories whatever they like. And I can give my opinion on people doing so and its negative effect on our politics.

Totally okay for the May supporters to call JC a terrorist sympathiser though!

I have to admit this is not something I know much about although I believe JC's support for the IRA is fairly well known? Also that he referred to Hamas and Hezbollah as his friends?

How about these other claims? I'm sure some do not indicate being a terrorist sympathiser (voting against anti-terror legislation could be for other reasons etc) but there are other claims on this list which look valid. Are they all untrue?

order-order.com/2017/06/08/100-times-jeremy-corbyn-sided-terrorists/

Hypocrisy

Indeed Finally.

crossword I don't click on guido's blog as a matter of principle. Well that and it'd take me a day to wade through all his retractions Try a more reputable source and i may be prepared to discuss it with you. But whilst we are on the subject and you appear to feel strongly about apparent terrorist interactions, how do you feel about May's interactions with SA? You know, the very same people who supply arms to ISIS who then commit horrific terrorist attacks on our soil?

Also Finally It's odd isn't it? almost like the May supporters have completely forgot what the DUP stood for before coalition.

Amazing what you can make disappear with a £1bn isn't it?

There is a bizarre trend right now of people just proposing we keep voting until they get the result they want. That's really not how it works.

A majority voted for conservatives...and a majority voted for brexit. There is no un-doing these things. we can not "stop" brexit. Best to move on and focus on supporting the process as best we can.

Like the Tories did by calling an unnecessary election hoping theyd get more seats?

A majority voted for conservatives...

No they didn't . If a majority voted for conservatives. They'd have had a majority and wouldn't need propping up by the DUP.

In power yes. But not by a majority.

Like the Tories did by calling an unnecessary election hoping theyd get more seats?

She didn't call am election hoping she'd get more seats. She called one because she couldn't do brexit without being an elected leader. As she wasn't technically elected before, she had to be in order to carry on with brexit. Otherwise some annoying arse somewhere, would have pointed out she wasn't elected ans doesn't have to power to do this. Who knew? Turned out I did listen in those EU classes!

FallingThroughTheroof that would certainly be an example, though possibly not a very effective one, since presumably they were happy to be in government so their motive wasn't to try and swing a labour majority?

AwaywiththePixes majority meaning the greater number. ie - they got more votes.

Also why would JC inevitably be PM anyway OP?

For JC to be PM there'd have to be another election, which he'd have to win. (doubtful given the fact a significant portion of Labour spent the best part of the last two years backstabbing each other instead of being a credible opposition).

Someone else from the Tories would just take up TMs mantle. Probably BoJo. He seems likeable. Sort of like xfactor politics.

As you will have seen Pixie each of the 100 claims on the Guido blog clicks through to a source for the claim (newspaper article, interview etc) so the facts are there. As I said above, I don't necessarily believe all the instances really represent "siding with terrorists" but many clearly do, and the factual information is presented to show this.

But if you don't want to refute these claims, that's fine.

I think our country's dealings with Saudi Arabia are appalling and incredibly dangerous. This has been going on for years, under Labour and Tory give, and needs to stop. The report on funding on extremism should be made public.

Sorry, I meant if you had clicked you would have seen.

BoJo is as likeable as a turd

You mean like here? Sorry I'm not responding instantly but I'm ill with a chest infection and political discussions on MN isn't my first priority ironically. Especially when I know whatever I post will just be dismissed anyway. Like there was on the last thread, and the one before that...

medium.com/justpolitical/corbyns-links-to-terrorists-antisemites-and-dictators-6018ad09a14

So anyway, you disagree with Mays stance on support for SA? That's good then. Oh, talking about refuting claims, I noticed you didn't reply to my point about how disrespectful the tories were to cheer at our emergency services not being given a pay rise.

Still. Understandable. Not much money left on that magic money tree now our new mates in NI are okay.

Finally now stop being disrespectful!