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Original poster

To think it's inevitable that JC will be PM and TM should just let it happen ASAP

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brexitstolemyfuture · 02/07/2017 20:04

They are now pretty much at the same popularity and in the years to come there will be millions more Labour voters and millions of Tory voters that will pass away. It's pretty much a done deal right? So why doesn't TM just go now?

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The80sweregreat · 05/07/2017 10:14

max, i agree , in a way if labour hadnt done as well and JC had left, they may , by now, have a credible leader that can appeal to more people. i voted labour with a heavy heart and i know that blair and brown were not perfect either, but they did champion business which is also needed to keep the economy going.
no easy answers to any of it really - the tories are in it for the long haul now i think. i cant see them wanting any more upsets so will keep the status quo as long as they can and keep TM in place too. Brexit will just overshadow everything anyway.

strikealight · 05/07/2017 10:58

Max, you are so right about Thatcher being a product of the 70s. If some of these naive idiots could go back and see what havoc JC nonsense wrought on our country and how people were seduced by Thatcher as the antidote to it.
What horrifies me even more is the people who do remember it and glorify it as some sort of success for our country.
Thank god we haven't just launched ourselves onto some ridiculous unproven economic experiment .... no , wait ....

coconuttella · 05/07/2017 14:07

To those saying being able to spare £1bn means we're rich, with the implication we can spend at will on public services, I'm glad your nowhere near the public finances! Of course on a personal scale £1bn is enormous... not so much on a national scale...

To scale it back to a domestic analogy....if i needed to spend £1,000 on something, I could manage that so without too much of an issue (I realise not everyone could and this isn't meant as a stealth boast!)... if I suddenly needed to spend an extra £30,000 per annum I'd have a massive financial problem! Replace my thousands for government billions and the analogy should be clear.

llangennith · 05/07/2017 14:19

JC as PM? Are you nuts?Grin

JustAnotherPoster00 · 05/07/2017 17:22

OH Jer-em-me Cor-byn, Oh Jer-em-me Cooooor-byn!!!

Grin
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brexitstolemyfuture · 07/07/2017 07:19

*The first YouGov survey since the General Election last month puts Jeremy Corbyn's party eight points ahead.

The poll for The Times tonight revealed that 46 per cent of the public back Labour, Conservatives 38 per cent, Lib Dems 6 per cent and Ukip 4 per cent.*

Grin yet people keep saying he will never be PM..

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ethelfleda · 07/07/2017 07:25

brexitstolemyfuture yes but remember they said something similar about Trump too Wink
Great username btw

olliegarchy99 · 07/07/2017 07:26

Those who believe a poll of 1684 people represents the entire voting population are at best deluded Hmm

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brexitstolemyfuture · 07/07/2017 07:27

Thanks - I know, you think people would learn. Wink

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Squeegle · 07/07/2017 07:28

Well, in my view labour is well out of it for the moment. Brexit is a huge poison chalice for anyone to take on, and will crucify all those involved. Time for a labour resurgence after that I think!

ethelfleda · 07/07/2017 07:29

ollie I see your point. I think we all learned after the last election not to trust the polls after they predicted such a landslide victory for May...

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brexitstolemyfuture · 07/07/2017 07:31

Yougov are pretty good at what they do, her ratings going into polling day was accurate.

She was ahead by a landslide before the campaign.

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FinallyThroughTheRoof · 07/07/2017 07:45

Exactly. She lost her landslide approval by election day, the polls weren't wrong.

Tanith · 07/07/2017 07:51

"To scale it back to a domestic analogy....if i needed to spend £1,000 on something, I could manage that so without too much of an issue (I realise not everyone could and this isn't meant as a stealth boast!)... if I suddenly needed to spend an extra £30,000 per annum I'd have a massive financial problem! Replace my thousands for government billions and the analogy should be clear."

OK, I take your point: it's not a huge amount of money for our Government.

To take your analogy further, would you pay me that spare £1000 if I agreed to back you up for all your posts on Mumsnet? Except the ones I find morally impossible, of course?

Because that is effectively what TM has done.

FinallyThroughTheRoof · 07/07/2017 08:02

The government isnt like a domestic household though. Far too simplistic.

Plus...that money could build a new school or hospital.

Lucysky2017 · 07/07/2017 08:14

Corbyn lost. That's all there is too it. His party may have got more votes than they expected but they still lost.
We may have another election in 5 years' time (or sooner) but if I were the Tories I would not be rushing it - we have had far too many votes recently as Brenda from Bristol said.

CrossWordSalad · 07/07/2017 08:17

Plus...that money could build a new school or hospital

and may well do so, but it will be in NI so that can't be a good thing Hmm

ChestnutsRoastingOnAnOpenFire · 07/07/2017 08:18

Both main parties unfortunately have bonkers leaders and are too far respectively to the right or left. The time is right for a new centrist party. It's a shame the Liv dems went into that coalition or their time would have been now. New labour almost got it right, unfortunately the left faction dominated too much in the second term and of course the leader became a megalomaniac as they all do (Teresa followed that path a little early). I'm hoping both parties will fracture and the moderates will form a new one. Hopefully before the mess that is brexit becomes irreversible.

FinallyThroughTheRoof · 07/07/2017 08:19

Am currently in NI Wink

FinallyThroughTheRoof · 07/07/2017 08:20

Perfectly open to the idea of building hospitals anywhere they are needed thanks. Just not into bribery.

FinallyThroughTheRoof · 07/07/2017 08:21

Of course Tories think we have had too many votes now. Didn't think it before calling an unnecessary election in which they lost their majority though.

CrossWordSalad · 07/07/2017 08:38

The £1billion is to be spent by the NI Assembly for the benefit of the people of NI. It is not going into the pockets of the DUP.

AwaywiththePixies27 · 07/07/2017 08:42

Labour lost the general election by quite a big margin. JC supporters need to remember this.

Are all Labour JC supporters now then? That's a new one on me Hmm

Well Tories didn't get a majority either? I think May supporters need to remember the only reason she's still in power is because she went cap in hand to a homophobic party to keep her own job. It's not really something to be admired.

FinallyThroughTheRoof · 07/07/2017 08:44

Fair enough..if the money was given to all nations equally..

AwaywiththePixies27 · 07/07/2017 08:45

its not a huge amount for our government

Yes it is. Especially by a government who's austerity plan worked so well they've had to extend it for another five years.

Northern Ireland wouldn't have seen a tenner of that money if May didn't need propping up, never mind a £1bn. Imagine being Prime Minister and the leader of a party that poisonous not one of the other major parties in the UK wanted to touch you with a bargepole.