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To wonder why people seem to have a problem with my 'lazy' lifestyle?

266 replies

Bumpandkind · 30/06/2017 15:24

My dp and I both work part time. We don't own but happily rent a nice house. We have a son 4 why goes to school everyday of the week. We don't rely on anyone for money and have just enough for rent, food and a few treats. We can't for example afford a foreign holiday but we like caravan and camping holidays in the uk.
We can't really afford much new stuff but are happy with what we've got and can afford toys for birthdays and Christmas etc.

My days off look like this:
Get up at 5 and play with ds. He is awaiting a diagnosis of high functioning ASD and everyday starts at 5 and its full on play time till he goes to school. The chances of him playing alone or watching tv are zero so it's full on for a while.

I go back to bed after dp takes him to school and surface about 10-11ish Blush

I then potter and do house work, go for an hour or twos walk and just enjoy myself. Ds comes home and it's the usual routine that most parent have in the evening.

The same goes for dp. He works about 4 shifts a week and when off does gardening, cooking and sleeping.
People often make comments that if we worked more we could have so much more but we're happy as we are. The same goes for more children. Ds is a star but as most parent of children with ASD, life can be hectic and unpredictable and we are happy with just the one.

People constantly have to let me know how busy their lives are and it makes me feel a bit guilty that mine isn't.

OP posts:
RainbowsAndUnicorn · 30/06/2017 19:16

Maybe if you were self supporting but as you are relying on other tax payers to fund your life style choices of little work each then people are bound to remark.

It wouldn't be for me, I want the best opportunities for my children and a safety net in case anything went wrong. Benefits would be an absolute last resort not something I claimed to allow me to do little.

WankYouForTheMusic · 30/06/2017 19:16

Personally I like your approach, and given your caring responsibilities I think it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do, morally. My issue would be more that I wouldn't choose to be in a tax credit reliant position if I could avoid it, because I don't trust that they'll be there in this capacity forever. If it were possible to earn more whilst still providing that level of care for your son, I'd at least investigate that.

But that's based on practicalities, not a difference in approach in general. Actually DH and I take a similar view, we're just perhaps a little more secure than you in that we own a modest home and we aren't tax credit claimants, so we have a bit more security. I'd at least try and see if that might be accessible to you, not because of any innate puritanism but just future proofing.

Catch583 · 30/06/2017 19:19

I was a SAHM and deliberately lived a very simple life to give my DCs what I considered the more important things in life.
DCs have always resented the secondhand clothes, modest gifts and holidays with cousins in the country. They wanted all the material possessions their friends had and never thanked me for my beliefs. Others pitied my DCs and now I wish I'd done things differently.

Wholovesorangesoda · 30/06/2017 19:20

I think a fair few who 'disapprove' are probably just jealous. I want to work part time and intend to in a year or so when I have paid off debts that mean we can live with me part time. I will miss the extra cash but I will not at all miss the stress of full time work and raising a child....and I only have 1!

Mammylamb · 30/06/2017 19:20

Cos they are jealous

SpiritedLondon · 30/06/2017 19:21

Well what do you intend to do in the future? Is there a savings account for college? Do either of you have a pension because.that would be my main concern. I don't really want to be working til Im 65 so lots of my plans centre around a comfortable life in the future as well as achieving a good work / life balance now.

Graceflorrick · 30/06/2017 19:23

I'm really jealous of your lifestyle OP.

MotherPie · 30/06/2017 19:23

Your lifestyle doesn't sound lazy! My weekdays consist of the same as yours and I work full time hours (30+). It is nobody else's business!

InvisibleKittenAttack · 30/06/2017 19:25

seethesun - I really don't want to be a party pooper, but I just don't see that it's practical for someone who is in their 40s or below to presume that the current state pension levels will be in place when they retire.

I would assume you have to fund yourself or the state pension levels will be around that of unemployment benefit.

WomblingThree · 30/06/2017 19:27

Why are people on MN so quick to ascribe jealousy to people? It's such a horrible destructive emotion, and it's so insulting to just bandy it around willy-nilly.

muckypup73 · 30/06/2017 19:45

Gosh where do I star, my son has Asd too, we start around 7am

Monday football
Tuedsday either bowling or soft play
Weds football
Thursa Nada
Friday Football
Saturday football
Sunday park

It is quite exhausting keeping him occupied, we do have a fair few caravan and Butlins holidays, as it seems to be the only break I have but saying that its non stop.
Thats without counting taxi lifts here there and everywhere for the other kids xx

elephantpig · 30/06/2017 19:54

Love the sound of it, our main difference though is no children (yet - still young) and we own a house (though we still have a mortgage). It's £650 a month and a 3 bed Edwardian house so we could stay here and have kids etc.
I'm really realising at the moment (and trying to embrace) that we are not career / corporate people. I just want to be in my house / with my husband / with my dog / seeing my Mum etc.

PickAChew · 30/06/2017 22:43

People seem to be missing the complexity of caring for a child with SN, tbh.

I've ended up completely giving up on any sort of career, as I have 2 of them. Both school age, now, youngest shortly to start secondary school. Even now, I often spend time sat between them (they hate each other and can't not fight), when they're both home and frantically dealing with the laundry mountain, fixing stuff they've trashed, ordering in supplies of stuff they need etc etc, when they're at school. We have the appointments carousel, which is, thankfully, less intensive, these days. Constant meetings with schools. Time spent educating myself on SEN law and building a case to get DS1 into the school he's in now. DS1 is in an LA SS from September, but the wrong one, as far as transport is concerned (but absolutely the right one for DS2), so I'm facing 5 hours a day commuting on the bus until we can move to somewhere where the bus journey is more manageable or we can tag onto some other transport for an existing fee (moving within free transport range of the school has turned out not to be feasible, partly due to where DH works now and largely due to where he needs to be able to travel if he does lose this job).

DH actually earns a decent wage, well above the local average and not far short of HR tax paying. he has marketable skills but some degree of specialism due to seniority. Despite the good salary, for the region, which enabled us to pay outright for the house we bought (not much more expensive than the apartment in Wales, at the time and only worth twice as much now!) the boys have such profound SN that the receive a level of DLA that puts us in a bracket where we are still entitled to some Child Tax Credits. Of course, we'll lose all of that, when we do move out of the sticks and get moved onto UC, but, considering there are 13 weeks of school holidays per year, on top of all the term time stuff, many people have no choice but to be in that bracket. The only people who pay HRT in the company that DH works for are the directors.

And the Op is in a situation where her DS is 4 years old. DS1 was at his most settled ever at 4 years old. He already had a diagnosis. He then started reception and it all went to shit. His statement was tightened up and things improved, until he started year 1, at which point he completely freaked out and by Christmas was unable to attend school full time.

It's never cut and dried. A lot of parents of kids with ASD end up home schooling because their kids simply cannot cope in a school environment. Are they going to be scolded about being short sighted about pensions, too?

And, TBH, DH has paid a fuckload into various pension schemes, over the years and none of them are going to leave us rolling in it, on retirement. one of those was equitable life. Bye bye to that money.

OverTheHammer · 30/06/2017 22:57

I'd be bored to death with a lifestyle like that. I want to go out and experience things and travel. I don't think everyone who raises an eyebrow at your lifestyle is jealous to be honest. It wouldn't be for me, put it that way.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 30/06/2017 23:05

Good for you! This materialistic life is a crock

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 30/06/2017 23:07

DCs have always resented the secondhand clothes, modest gifts and holidays with cousins in the country. They wanted all the material possessions their friends had and never thanked me for my beliefs

That's sad to read

Nancy91 · 30/06/2017 23:18

OverTheHammer, like the OP, I don't work many hours but I'm paid well enough that I'm forever travelling out of the country. I never feel bored - I have friends and family to see, a dog to walk, shopping, beauty appointments, hobbies and gym sessions to fill my time (along with the housework). I find working full time way more boring than my current lifestyle, that's why I went part time. I think sometimes there is a balance you can reach and you can have the best of both worlds. Having free time doesn't mean you sit around the house all day bored.

Gwenhwyfar · 30/06/2017 23:23

"If you lost your jobs and/or your rented home, you'd have to fall back on the state."

Only until they get another job and they'd be unlucky to both lose their jobs at the same time. Also, with being able to live on two part time jobs, they'd have the option of only one of them working full time if that's what they could find.

Gwenhwyfar · 30/06/2017 23:30

"because as left wing as I am choosing to work very part time while claiming TC doesn't sit right with me"

Why not?

Dibbles1967 · 30/06/2017 23:30

If it works for you all, don't take any notice of what anybody might say to the contrary. xx

OldSkoolRapFan · 30/06/2017 23:31

If you were actually self sufficient then you wouldn't need to explain yourself to anyone

But you aren't

You are claiming tax credits, that you would not be entitled to if you or your husband worked full time

Basically the tax payers are paying for you to have an easy life..so your lifestyle does invite opinion as everyone else who is working is funding your family - that is not our job to pay your bills, that is yours.

Like I said, if you were funding this easy lifestyle yourself, I would have total respect, but you aren't

Gwenhwyfar · 30/06/2017 23:39

"Nobody on their death bed ever wished they had worked more

Plenty of newly retired people do though once they realise how little pension they have."

Don't they regret not paying more into their pension rather than not working enough. If it was simply a matter of working, they could go back to work for a few years.

LovelyBath77 · 30/06/2017 23:44

Tax credits are being changed over to universal credit from 2019-2022 and they require a minimum income floor for the self-employed, so they base it on that. It seems they will require couples to do more than part time each. But, it may be different with a DC with SN (possibly if they get PIP) so I wouldn't count on tax credits in the future. I'd also be concerned about not owning a property. My husband in self-employed and recently have had illness problems which is why he is not full time, but at least will have paid off the smallish mortgage soon.

Gwenhwyfar · 30/06/2017 23:45

"I think a fair few who 'disapprove' are probably just jealous."

Yep. Working part time sounds like a dream life to me.

Gwenhwyfar · 30/06/2017 23:47

"jealousy to people? It's such a horrible destructive emotion, and it's so insulting to just bandy it around willy-nilly."

I think it's totally natural. Not always destructive either, feeling the pangs of envy can make you realise things about your own life.