Or is toast with honey a perfectly acceptable breakfast for a 4yo?

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Just that, really. DD(4) is asking for toast with honey for breakfast. DH is telling her she can't have it. I ask why, he says it's just pure sugar and looks at me like I've got two heads. Surely toast with honey is a perfectly normal breakfast option? It's not like she eats it every day (or in fact ever before).

DH is foreign, if that makes a difference. He has some really weird (to me) ideas about what is and isn't an acceptable meal

If it's a one off then I guess it's ok. My 6 yo always asks for porridge just as it is so I would be ok with him asking for it as you say for the first time. We as adults know what our bodies are craving and there is a reason for that. We don't deny ourselves. So maybe don't deny our children if they have asked for it. Unless of course if it's clear they have asked more than is reasonable. Honey is used for many medicenal purposes. I think I'd be happy my child asking for this rather than going to the shop for sweets. Maybe I'm lucky but my boy would rather a plate of pasta over sweets any day. I'm the same so maybe he is like his mummy lol xx

Haha! That made me laugh! Makes me think of one of my favourite films 'Elf' when he has syrup on everything! 😂

I was replying to Fessmess then about the 100's & 1000's x

My three are 13 and have always eaten honey,stages of it on porridge or maple syrup on blueberry pancakes at the weekend, sweets within reason, yogurts,cakes etc.None of them have any fillings or signs of decay.

Is this thread making anyone else want honey on toast or at least a crumpet?

I always have a laugh at the protein obsessers. Beans on toast is evil, but processed nitrate filled bacon and sausages are fine

And yes, I would say even these are fine once a week or so. Nothing is bad or good. It's just food.

There are people on this thread who will be giving their children very fucked up messages about food. No wonder there are lots of kids with food and body issues.

I want to ask all these protein low carb pishers do you actually enjoy eating for pleasure. You know what that is right??

Maybe I'm lucky but my boy would rather a plate of pasta over sweets any day

pasta is worse than crack. Give him some eggs and acocado,

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Well they are both pure sugar, so nutritionally no difference. You should add some protein...

Ignoring the fact that anybody would want to serve their kids something called a Suckie Collective Pouches contain 8.9 g of sugar. More than a teaspoon of honey. Ham is waaaay more unhealthy than honey. There have been frequent warnings re limiting its consumption.

Well they are both pure sugar, so nutritionally no difference. You should add some protein...

I'm not sure chicken liver pate and haribo would go that well together. Maybe a runny egg might work as an accompaniment though.

I'm (loosley) following slimming world to lose weight. I'm astonished at the amount of 'free' meat that people are encouraged to snack on.
Things like houmous and wholemeal pitta bread are not included in the plan, but sausages, burgers and bacon are a free food. It's crazy..

So much misinformation on this thread demonstrating how badly scientific information is filtered to the general public, particular on nutrition.

The average brown bread will have 8g of protein/100g 0 so the portion for a 4 yearly chilld will probably be half of that, so 4g. if this child had a glass of milk, she would have 10g of protein per 8 oz. Again, small appetite so half of that - 5g. total protein so far in 50g of brown bread and 4oz of milk is 9g. One large egg has 6g of protein.

Oh, in terms of white bread, it has 7.5g of protein per 100 g, so not nutritionally void.

Honey is not nutritionally void and is rich is micronutrients and antioxidants - particularly raw honey. Certain kinds of honey have natural antibacterial properties and so serve a medicinal purpose.

Toast with honey and a glass of milk is a perfectly nutritious breakfast.

People are so ignorant..

Omg I love the people who go on about how their children have had chocolate in a stash for years and they only have one microgram a day. Personally my children have a pack of chocolate buttons bought for them at birth and then every night, when they go to bed, I balance one on their nose and they never eat it. Such restraint, it shows exactly what a fabulous parent I am. smug face

Perfectly fine. My dd suffers with allergies so we buy 'locally' sourced honey for her honey sarnies. i also give her a teaspoon of honey which does help with the pollen allergy

Does anyone think that fads like clean eating are just another form of eating disorder!

Anyone I know who goes on about this sort of stuff seems to have deep seated food issues.
There is someone at work likes this. She jumps from eating 'clean' to calorie counting and eating junk, to joining WW. This always happens in a cycle.

.Everyone else can see that she has problems, but she thinks she is a fountain of wisdom about all things nutrition.

She has three DD's. God only knows what sort of issues around food they are going to grow up with

I feed mine as much local honey as I can into my 2 and 3 year old. It's an excellent way to absorb micro amounts of what can end up being allergy triggers.

Very little protein in that breakfast but it's fine for a once in a while breakfast. I've been known to give my 8 year d Nutella on toast for breakfast 😮😮

I would love to be like the people saying don't eat it. I started off full of good intentions with my children. The first child didn't really have any sugar the first year or so. Then just the odd treat. 3 children later and I've lost control. They all eat rubbish for breakfast. Usually Krave or crunchy nut cornflakes. I have tried only buying weetabix or porridge (it's always on offer) but they just say they'll go hungry. Not quite sure at which point I let them try the sugary cereal to start with. That was where I went wrong. But they have a Dad who is obsessed with eating sugar. He has jam and marmalade on toast together 🤢 He's always eating cakes and biscuits and can't have a meal without dessert, he even has dessert after breakfast. He thinks I'm bonkers when I tell him off. His parents were the same, they did both get diabetes in old age but lived into their 90's. so OH always says cakes etc never did them any harm. Oh and he's not overweight by the way.

Things like houmous and wholemeal pitta bread are not included in the plan, but sausages, burgers and bacon are a free food. It's crazy..

Even though processed red meat has literally been linked to cancer. Sad times!

Does anyone think that fads like clean eating are just another form of eating disorder!

OMG, absolutely. I'm getting fucking sick of Instagrammers and their vegan/paleo/clean-eating bullshit and obsessive "fitspo", which is basically a well dressed up eating disorder (but they're not emaciated so it's fine, they're an INSPIRATION apparently). Some vacuous blonde 20y/o who still lives at home and spends 3 hours at the gym perfecting her 6 pack and eating avocado is an inspiration, but some dowdy looking Head of Fire Services or Chief of Police or whatever gets no mention as an idol for young women....

Ughhhhhhhh

I don't believe the question was if you liked honey or not. It was if it is an acceptable (I would think nutritionally acceptable was the concern) Breakfast or not. I wouldn't give my boys just toast w/honey but I would allow it with other items. Yogurt, milk, oats, or even another piece of toast w/peanut butter would round it out. I try to give a bit of all the food groups for each meal, protein, dairy, fruits/vegetables, and a starch to keep them full and getting a good amount of vitamins and minerals in their diet.

I don't believe the question was if you liked honey or not. It was if it is an acceptable.

Discussion threads do tend to veer off slightly from the precise, original question. I don't believe the OP asked anything about fictional bears either, and certainly not ducks, but here they are in the thread

A "Head of Fire Services or Chief of Police or whatever gets no mention"

If only they had avoided honey and toast of a morning, they too could be something to aspire to

Someone has confused aniseed twists for fusilli

Fucks sake reuset bringing up Winnie again

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