Or is toast with honey a perfectly acceptable breakfast for a 4yo?

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Just that, really. DD(4) is asking for toast with honey for breakfast. DH is telling her she can't have it. I ask why, he says it's just pure sugar and looks at me like I've got two heads. Surely toast with honey is a perfectly normal breakfast option? It's not like she eats it every day (or in fact ever before).

DH is foreign, if that makes a difference. He has some really weird (to me) ideas about what is and isn't an acceptable meal

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Oh these are so horrible. But poffertjes, such delicious rubbish!

Yes, Dutch. And he's been known to have chocolate hagelslag on bread so it's clearly one rule for one, one for another

You are making me laugh, What. No shit, eh? Gah, we're all so ignorant here, where would we be without your divine knowledge and supreme intellect? It's a fucking piece of bread with butter and honey, not a sausage egg mcmuffin (but at least there's plenty of protein in that).

These batshit threads are hilarious. I cannot believe no one has mentioned the potential for botulism poisoning from raw honey.

And still, no one has told us all what a scrape of honey is.

Our daughter pretty much has honey on toast every day. Honey is chemically different from sugar and is digested differently. Anyway she is 8 and has never eaten a mar bar for example nor does she drink fizzy drinks sugar free of not.

Lets not forget glucose is the bodies primary source of energy.

I think we're all aware that flour and butter is processed, churned and milled respectively. That wasn't the point really, up thread, though

expatinscotland, chill out FFS. You've obviously got a bee in your bonnet (no pun intended) but no need to take it out on me.

But fruit is full of sugar too?

I don't like honey, but i'm pretty sure it's the healthiest thing you can have on toast!

I knew it. All my Dutch family and friends think they have a super healthy diet because they eat herrings. They forget all the fried snacks though!

But fruit is full of sugar too?
Yes, which is why gov. guidlines tell us not to eat too much of it for reasons I daren't mention in case Expat has a go at me again

I don't like honey, but i'm pretty sure it's the healthiest thing you can have on toast!
Why, what's in honey that makes it "the healthiest thing you can have on toast"? I'm genuinely curious.

'You've obviously got a bee in your bonnet (no pun intended) but no need to take it out on me.'

I actually don't, I just find these threads incredibly funny, especially when posters gets all wound up and go all pedantic in an attempt to be PA. It's highly amusing.

Yes what I know all that but it is ridiculous to take it too far and berate a spoonful of honey. A small amount of sugar is ok. Most adults are intelligent enough to balance their own dc's diet. Honey doesn't need to be deemed a devil food.

Interestingly bananas contain glucose as well as fructose( and sucrose). Diabetics are told to limit ripe bananas. 16% of their weight is sugar when ripe( not far off many sugary cereals). A banana contains more "sugar" than a tiny teaspoon of honey. I have no intention of demonising bananas any more than honey I'll just make sure DC don't eat ripe bananas by the kilo.

I would see it more as a treat than a meal.

Boiled egg followed by toast - no worries.

White bread and butter with 100's and 1000's given to my 6yr old niece by SIL for breakfast!

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Thats the norm in Netherlands

Fine occasionally. I would try to avoid every day but some children won't eat anything else and when she goes to school, if it's the difference between that and no breakfast, it's better than nothing.

My mother used to butter fried bread, just saying...
but then she pretty much dug her own grave with her knife and fork

Such weird obsessions with anything whatsoever which contains any type of sugar whatsoever, even in relation to things which have been in our diets for millenia. I wonder if anyone ever got type 2 diabetes as a result of eating too much fresh fruit in their lifetime? And as a matter of interest, albeit a different species, do monkeys get type 2 diabetes from eating too many bananas?

Anything done to excess is a bad idea. This includes those who follow government advice to excess, as a few years down the line, they usually find unpredicted and harmful consequences to that advice and have to change it. It's advice on fat and salt intakes that resulted in our food having so much sugar in it, in any event - people don't like tasteless food, after all. And now we are told fat isn't as bad as was thought. Ffs.

Honey has been in our diets for millenia. I think it is entirely safe to say a bit of honey for breakfast is not going to kill you. Unless it's contaminated with lethal bacteria!

Acceptable? Yes.

Healthy or nutritious in any way? No.

It's fine for an occasional treat but it's empty carbs and nothing more. Ideally, breakfast should include protein and fat. Boiled, scrambled or omeletted eggs are perfect. Yoghurt is good - we buy the Collective yoghurt pouches as they are live yoghurt based. Porridge with whole milk is good too. Ham and cheese plate.

I know cereal and toast are 'normal' but they are far from the best choice.

I'd say depends on the honey. I give mine a spoonful of Manuka every day....On toast, in serial, or straight out of the jar. In a good honey, the beneficial properties far outweigh the sugar!

It's fine for an occasional treat but it's empty carbs and nothing more. Ideally, breakfast should include protein and fat.

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Yes, processed red meat is far healthier

Organic local honey is beneficial in small amounts occasionally but it's not good for the teeth to have a lot or frequently. My daughter is 14 and has no fillings or gum disease as this kind of thing has always been limited for her

earthmother1 I am 28 and have no fillings either despite consuming honey.

Is this whole thread a wind up?