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To complain about screaming teachers

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user1498071458 · 21/06/2017 20:00

Since DD went to secondary school she has been complaining about teachers "screaming."

According to her, when a child gets in trouble they are screamed at.

At first I ignored this but it's really starting to unsettle DD.

WIBU to ask to speak to someone about it?

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SuperPug · 21/06/2017 20:40

What kind of school is this?
I had an interview at one school where I could clearly see that they ruled by fear.
Not commonplace though - could she mean raised voices because of general bad behaviour instead of screaming? That sounds extreme.
Badbadbunny- not great for the kids who are behaving but some behaviour in schools is awful and I doubt the teachers want to do this.

KimchiLaLa · 21/06/2017 20:42

I had a teacher who once now I understand was clearly under pressure and delivered a 10 minute rant to the class on how we were such underperformers, so naughty, that we were dragging her down. This was a private school. Not that it matters, but we are now all doing pretty well in life. She was a complete cunt, and I never use that word.

user1498071458 · 21/06/2017 20:49

I think there is an element of ruling by fear.

I don't condone it but someone videod the teacher in assembly. I was shocked.

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SmileEachDay · 21/06/2017 20:51

Odd that you didn't mention that in your OP, user

ArtemisiaGentilleschi · 21/06/2017 20:52

So your daughter and her friends take their coats of, and a propos of nothing, the teacher/any teacher nearby/all teachers suddenly begin screaming?

No they don't.

But go in and express your concerns. You may find out exactly what does go on in your daughter's class.

I screamed once this academic year. Boy repeatedly told to stop doing that fucking thing with his water bottle and stop fondling the girl next to him.

I sounded like I was batshit and it was evident I'd lost control. Not my best moment.

RainyDayBear · 21/06/2017 20:53

This sounds like a touch of exaggeration - I suspect she has teachers who raise their voice in a controlled manner to be heard / reprimand students who are ignoring the teacher, and the odd teacher who is a touch shouty when students misbehave. I do think the context is incredibly important - for example, I don't shout if a student has forgotten their homework, is chatting or is rude. But I do shout if a student does something dangerous, such as boys horsing around and strangling another one whilst collecting bags etc at the end of the lesson, or jokingly pushing each other in the corridors, meaning they bumped into a crowd of Year 7's (both happened today). I do raise my voice - but not shout - when a student is ignoring me (ie I have told them not to chat, and they are chatting for the third time in five minutes).

I think the relationships between teachers and students is different from primary school to secondary, as they suddenly have to get used to different teachers, all with different approaches, mannerisms and expectations. It can be a lot for some students to get used to!

YANBU to maybe raise it with her form tutor or year manager, but I'd maybe do so as a concern that she is feeling uncomfortable with some of it (rather than phrasing it as 'the teachers scream'). Is she by chance a nice, diligent child who worries a lot about getting into trouble? If so, I'd maybe explain that this is causing her to worry.

user1495025590 · 21/06/2017 21:00

The teachers 'scream' ie .give long, loud, piercing cries expressing extreme emotion or pain which is what 'screaming' means , or do you mean shouting ie raising their voice? You are barmy if you thinl

user1498071458 · 21/06/2017 21:04

I mean screaming.

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KittyVonCatsington · 21/06/2017 21:04

They are screamed at as soon as they come in (coats off etc.)

So all the teachers scream do they? All day every day?

Yeah, right.

Shout/project voice I can believe. Screaming is very different to shouting....

WorraLiberty · 21/06/2017 21:05

This is so weird

I think you need to ask your DD what her definition of screaming is.

SmileEachDay · 21/06/2017 21:05

OP

What are you wanting from this thread?

KittyVonCatsington · 21/06/2017 21:05

X-post-you can't scream and say words at the same time.

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 21/06/2017 21:08

Some teachers do yell at students

Dd was yelled at by a teacher the other day, the teacher could be heard at the other end of the corridor

Other parents spoke to me about it

This is a shouty teacher though

Another worked in the infants school

Shouty teachers are few and far between though

rosy71 · 21/06/2017 21:09

The teachers 'scream' ie .give long, loud, piercing cries expressing extreme emotion or pain which is what 'screaming' means

This is screaming. I find it incredibly difficult to believe they are screaming at all, especially not all day long!

WorraLiberty · 21/06/2017 21:09

Kitty perhaps they scream the words, like some sort of weird over dramatic opera? Grin

user1495025590 · 21/06/2017 21:10

So they are all shrieking 'aaaaaghhhhh!!'
OOOOKAAAAY Hmm

AnUnhappyStudent · 21/06/2017 21:10

I believe you! I once went to pick DD up from nursery and went past a primary school class with the french doors open. The female teacher was screaching at the class, I wasShock and sent my DD elsewhere.

DorotheaBeale · 21/06/2017 21:10

Scream: To utter a shrill piercing cry, normally expressive of pain, alarm, mirth, or other sudden emotion. OED.

Are the teachers regularly recreating the shower scene in Psycho? Screaming is not the same as shouting.

Piggywaspushed · 21/06/2017 21:10

It's the modern generation, I'm afraid...

Have you never told your DD off and then had her sulk and tell you you screamed' at her?? We live in an interesting generation power wise, where children don't have the same automatic society bred respect for authority (I am aware I sound old fashioned!)

When I started teaching 20 years ago , I was admired because I could control a class. I did like a good shout. Some children thrive on being a bit intimidated. then that moved to be called a disciplinarian...

Now, if I mildly harangue a student, I get told (by the student) that I am 'shouting on their ear'

All part of the entitlement culture.

I think the police sometimes get this same allegation! And they have licence to be far ruder to their inmates!

There is an actual definition of 'screaming'. I am sure what you and DD actually mean is 'shouting very loudly'. The voice can be a powerful weapon...

(Disclaimer: I don't actually shout very much. I use it sparingly. Am fed up of adolescents sulking though when reprimanded, possibly because it is the first and only time any one has put them in their place, or sometimes because it reflects how they treat their parents)

If someone filmed an assembly , I think that is awful awful behaviour. Boy would I yell (not scream) at a student who did that.

SmileEachDay · 21/06/2017 21:12

I might teach tomorrow in the style of an operatic lead.

I might go in fancy dress.

Piggywaspushed · 21/06/2017 21:13

Took ages writing that post and can now see lots of others defining 'scream' for you OP...

caffeinestream · 21/06/2017 21:13

Do you mean shouting?

People scream when they're in pain or excited, I don't think I've ever heard someone scream for longer than about 30 seconds!

TheFaerieQueene · 21/06/2017 21:13

I've heard it all now. All the teachers are screaming all day.
Hmm

corythatwas · 21/06/2017 21:15

Ds was very worried about his teacher shouting when he started junior school. I went in to speak to the tutor (nicely, about ds settling in) and could hear his voice booming down the road. After a friendly and positive chat I was able to go home and report to ds that his teacher was, in fact, rather hard of hearing. Ds settled down once he realised there was a reason for it and became so fond of this teacher that he cried when he had to leave the following year.

SmileEachDay · 21/06/2017 21:15

Is it like this?

[[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ybekJh-FAzM ]]

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