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To complain about screaming teachers

156 replies

user1498071458 · 21/06/2017 20:00

Since DD went to secondary school she has been complaining about teachers "screaming."

According to her, when a child gets in trouble they are screamed at.

At first I ignored this but it's really starting to unsettle DD.

WIBU to ask to speak to someone about it?

OP posts:
Eolian · 21/06/2017 22:41

Sometimes teachers shout. Either because they need to make themselves heard over a lot of noise, or briefly because they wish to have a short sharp impact to stop dangerous of seriously disruptive behaviour, or because they've lost their temper after exhausting and frustrating stretches of poor behaviour. I have never, in 20 plus years of teaching, heard a teacher scream. Unless 'screaming' is sexist shorthand for a person with a high voice (i.e. a woman) raising their voice.

TheZeppo · 21/06/2017 22:42

What an awful thing to say OP.

MaisyPops · 21/06/2017 22:44

^^ which it usually is.
Female teacher is assertive. Stop the press.

Thankfully I heard students talking about a male colleague of mine 'proper screaming' which made me smile.
My reply: 'screaming? Like actually screaming? How I scream?... so not screaming.' And we had a laugh and moved on. Seems to be shorthand with the reasonable kids for 'sucks to be them [the person getting told off]'.

beachdream · 21/06/2017 22:46

I have taught in several schools over the last decade and have never seen screaming.
I have seen raising of voice, very occasional shouting but never screaming in all that time.
Teachers don't enjoy raising their voices to children. I would make sure you know exactly what's going on before you make accusations of screaming teachers

nina2b · 21/06/2017 22:50

OP:

This is so transparent. You are out to have a pop at teachers. Zzzzzzzzz

nina2b · 21/06/2017 22:51

Screaming yeah yeah.

BoneyBackJefferson · 21/06/2017 22:53

GF

pieceofpurplesky · 21/06/2017 22:54

Disgusting OP. You clearly have no idea whatsoever about schools, children and safeguarding.

elephantoverthehill · 21/06/2017 22:57

I have taught for far too long. IME, screaming, results in about 10 teachers running full pelt towards the sound 10 teachers walking very briskly to the sound. I luckily have only been involved on a few occasions.

BoysofMelody · 21/06/2017 22:57

really hope none of the teachers on here have a child come to them saying they have been abused. I bet you'd say they were talking bollocks wouldn't you??

That's an absurd comparison, you are making yourself look ever more foolish.

PortiaCastis · 21/06/2017 22:57

If there's a problem go and speak to the HT or someone, don't come on here posting offensive insulting tripe

kmc1111 · 22/06/2017 02:29

When I was at school I'd say about a quarter of the teachers used to scream their way through lessons. Someone would say something or laugh, and then we'd get 15 minutes of screaming about not interrupting the class (during which time we had to stop work). Hell, I remember one time my maths teacher fell asleep in his car and was late for class, and then screamed at us for the rest of it for not magically knowing where he was and going to wake him. And the HT was a nightmare, so assemblies were just rants about the many ways we were all letting the school down.

The majority of teachers are great, but there's always a few who have no business working with other human beings. It can be very tough if you manage to get the lot of them in a single school year. I had that twice, ended up with ulcers due to the stress.

MrsOverTheRoad · 22/06/2017 03:14

ONLY on Mumsnet is it "ok" for teachers to act unreasonably.

If someone had come on saying "My DH screams at the kids when they're naughty"

Everyone would say LTB!!! He's abusive!

but for some unfathomable reason, it's FINE when teachers do it.

I got screamed at with the rest of the class in secondary and it was bloody awful! I was a good kid but was forced to sit through some wanker or cow screaming how shit we all were.

It's wrong OP!

elfinpre · 22/06/2017 04:12

By "screaming" do you mean "shouting"?

Screaming is more of a high pitched wail of alarm, often used in fear. Shouting is more of a raised voice used in anger. I'd guess it was the latter and the teachers are not screaming in fear all day long, though I could be wrong.

Either way, someone raising their voice a lot is upsetting and suggests a lack of control of the class.

Susiethetortoiseshellcat · 22/06/2017 06:24

Is poor behaviour quite a big issue at the school? It sounds quite bad if senior managers have to regularly be called into classes and pupils film teachers and put it on FB.

It can be very soul destroying working at a school like that and teachers can lose all their passion for their job with such low morale which could account for the screaming.

MaisyPops · 22/06/2017 06:27

ONLY on Mumsnet is it "ok" for teachers to act unreasonably.
Nobody says that. And to be fair, there's loads of threads where the 'I don't like teachers crew' start with the 'my child shouldn't have to wear uniform/do homework/follow rules' etc. Usually with massive pile in of 'Here's one situation in my own schooling 10/20 years ago that proves how awful teachers are, teachers are power hungry bullies etc.

Nobody is saying it's fine for teachers to be unreasonable.
What we are saying is that evidence suggests that teenagers can exaggerate and the likelihood of being screamed at all the time like the OP suggests is slim. Equally, that for it to get to a point where other members of staff are coming into a class like that it's usually because more children in the class are misbehaving than behaving.

SmileEachDay · 22/06/2017 07:44

but for some unfathomable reason, it's FINE when teachers do it

Who has said that?

Piggywaspushed · 22/06/2017 08:06

Actually, I often need to step away from school threads: the level of teacher bashing on MN puts the DM to shame and makes me a bit depressed about how parents foment anti-teacher sentiment amongst their own offspring. They usually keep this quiet when they meet us in person and use the cover of the internet to express antagonism.

They may exist but I am not sure I have seen too many nurse or police bashing threads. I know people have a pop at the NHS but they are usually quick to blame it on cuts rather than the professionals themselves.

I loathe and detest the 'snowflake ' cliché but I honestly think this 'don't shout scream at me/my child' is part of that bigger picture.

I can't believe there are really many parents who haven't ever shouted at their children !

Piggywaspushed · 22/06/2017 08:06

Actually, I often need to step away from school threads: the level of teacher bashing on MN puts the DM to shame and makes me a bit depressed about how parents foment anti-teacher sentiment amongst their own offspring. They usually keep this quiet when they meet us in person and use the cover of the internet to express antagonism.

They may exist but I am not sure I have seen too many nurse or police bashing threads. I know people have a pop at the NHS but they are usually quick to blame it on cuts rather than the professionals themselves.

I loathe and detest the 'snowflake ' cliché but I honestly think this 'don't shout scream at me/my child' is part of that bigger picture.

I can't believe there are really many parents who haven't ever shouted at their children !

Piggywaspushed · 22/06/2017 08:07

Sorry, no intention to post twice!!

Piggywaspushed · 22/06/2017 08:15

Mrs I really hope you don't call teachers wankers or cows to your children...

Did the teachers back in the day really say you were shit??

VintagePerfumista · 22/06/2017 08:15

I venture that there is a GF invasion of teacher bashing over the last few days.

There are a lot of wind-em-up-watch-em-go button pushing OPs.

I must also be reading a different MN to previous posts because it's almost always open season on teachers. Pleased to see that this one hasn't quite gone the way the GFs wanted.

Piggywaspushed · 22/06/2017 08:22

You think it's the hot weather vintage ?

VintagePerfumista · 22/06/2017 08:25

Probably Grin or they're getting the school feedback on how their kids have behaved this year. Wink Or DM plants wanting teachers to say they hate the kids they teach.

echt · 22/06/2017 08:41

I think the teacher bashing is a warm up for threads where malcontents come on to piss and moan about the long school holidays.

I predict a thread quite soon where someone will say how horrible MNers are.

Then another that says MNers deify teachers.

:o