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AIBU to be really upset?

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StyleCommander · 21/06/2017 14:05

I'm not a parent, my paternal instinct (fortunately) came and went in the last couple of years. However, my nieces are really important to me (and I like the fact I can give them back). Anyway (this may be TL:DR)

My sister took her kids (14, 7 and 5) to Blackpool for my cousins wedding, and decided her, my bro in law and the kids could spend a day in the Pleasure Beach. My Eldest niece (not real name) Bea, wanted to do all the big rides and coasters, but not on her own. My sister is a proper wet end so wouldn't go on them with her and my Bro in Law is a little on the large side, OK a LOT on the large side, and couldn't fit. So Bea ended up not being able to do anything more thrilling than the Teacups.

My sister called me up and said she was a little upset for Bea, so I said I'd fly over (I live in Spain) and I'd take her and the older 2 girls to Alton Towers for a couple of days.

My Sister then booked everything and paid for the hotel, the tickets and told my Bro in Law to change his shift at work so he could drop us off and start later in the day or do the night shift.

It was decided that, because I was waiting to be paid, when we were there, I was going to be the one to splash the cash to make up for what I'd not paid. Thus bringing us to 50/50 in what we've paid each, which I thought was fair.

I then get a call from my sister the day before we left, telling me that Bro in Law didn't tell work about the plans, and we would have to get the train, then a bus. OK, that's not too bad, worse things have happened in the world, but it's still a ball ache.

So I booked the tickets, paid for the cab from the house to the station, and paid the £30 (£30 fucking pounds for a bus that's probably only just scraped through its MOT!) for the bus from Stoke to Alton.

At this point, because I had no card as my partner needed it in Spain, money was literally evaporating before my eyes (My partner only gave me £160 and £40 buffer in cash) and had only £60 left in my wallet having gone through the buffer and £100 just to get us there.

The kids have little routine when it comes to food. If they're peckish between meals, they go into the kitchen and grab a piece of fruit or have a couple of crackers with cheese, which I'm not really fussed about. I'll go into this in a sec.

However, the night before we left, my sister got absolutely drunk as a skunk, and I was then left to pack 4 peoples things into my small bag which was like a fabric version of playing Tetris. I then woke up at 5:00am, checked we had everything we needed and had breakfast planned for the kids (me and my sister don't eat until lunch). At 6:30am, I got the girls up, made their breakfast and got my sister up. I got the girls fed, dressed and watered and my sister FINALLY rolls out of bed at 6:45am has a coffee, cigarette, quick wash, does her hair and is good to go.

We left at around 7:30am to catch the train, got to Manchester, got the train and landed in Stoke at about 9:15ish. Literally 10 minutes before the bus was due. Ideal time for loo break and cigarette break.

We were hot, tired, frustrated and generally just picking fights with each other all the way there.

When we got to the park, which was around 11am me and my sister went to the bar to settle our nerves (far too early I know). I then proceeded to buy one of those all day free refill cup things for £6, which I worked out as being the cheapest option for us as money was seriously low.

At around mid day however, my younger niece started complaining she was hungry. I didn't really know what to do, so we put it off for another hour until I could work things out in my head and sat down at the Cafe near Oblivion where I got me and my sister another drink (we'd endured several 5 year old tantrums and several teenage bitch fits already).

I then transferred £100 from my account to hers (money that wasn't mine, but my husbands) and she insisted on going to a buffet. I'm not a big eater, neither is she, and the girls eat like normal kids. This amounted to just short of £50, which I thought was extortionate given that I was trying to keep it on a relatively small budget.

Anyway, I let that slide. It was a treat for the girls and they really enjoyed it.

After that we had a lovely first day, except for when I thought it would be a really good idea to walk into a lamp post!

We went back to the hotel (another £20 for the taxi) and had a few drinks and a little sharing platter (£20), so I transferred another £60, thinking £40 for the bar and £20 for another taxi back to the park.

However, we ran out of cigarettes and cash because my sister decided she only wanted wine (at £5 a small glass) as oppose to Cider and Black (£2.80 per pint). So I transferred another £30. £20 for the taxi, £10 for cigarettes.

Again, we had a nice time in the park, I got some quality time with my eldest niece and gave her a history lesson on the Towers and the house, and gave her a tour of the place, which bizarrely ended up with about 4 families also following me round and asking questions about the place and the history and the legend of The Chained Oak. I'm a history buff, and my ex is a history teacher specializing in local history.

My bro in law picked us up at the end of the day, and we went back to their house, where my sister got rapidly pissed after chugging a bottle of wine in under 30 minutes.

The morning after, the money again was gone, and we had no cigarettes, alcohol, tea, coffee, milk or fruit juice (we're not alcoholics, I just can't be arsed going to the shop 3 times in a day, so buy everything at the same time), so I transferred another £50. This was to get Tobacco, rolling papers, filters, Beer for me, Cider for her (I put my foot down, finally), Tea, Coffee, Milk and Juice and a couple of loaves to shove in the freezer for emergency use if she needs it.

Anyway. It gets to about 8:00pm, and I say I'm going back to my parents as my flight was early the next morning.

I didn't even get a thank you. Off any of them.

What was meant to be a 50/50 thing feels like it's been 90/10 thing. I feel hurt, embarrassed and used by my sister. I broke down crying to my mum, because what I had planned fell apart at the seams and Bea didn't get the experience I envisaged.

Money isn't an issue for me, I can't take it with me, so I spend it, however, the initial £400 that my sister spent seems to have ended up costing me the same and she's the one that got all the benefit while I'm trying to pacify my husband for spending £530 in 2 days.

Who is to blame here? Me for being an idiot, My sister for getting her £400 back with interest, or my Bro in law for being so selfish that his action led to the entire fiasco?

I'm a 29 year old man, I know how to budget, and I don't begrudge the girls anything. But to not even get a thank you or a kiss goodbye, I feel that's just adding insult to injury.

AIBU

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DixieFlatline · 22/06/2017 12:06

I did all I could physically and financially to give them a nice couple of days.

Being less focused on wasting money on fags and booze might have helped. Was that beyond you and your sister?

the only way I know how to make a bad situation better, is to throw cash at it to take the sting off how bad it is, and then pay the consequences later

No, it seems that your way of making a bad situation 'better' is to make it worse by wasting money on drink. And you're not paying the consequences - you're whining about how it's other people's fault. Either you accept personal responsibility for your choices or you don't...

StyleCommander · 22/06/2017 12:19

This money thing is.

Sister pays £400. I pay half in spends (£200), Are we still in the basic maths class?

I ended up spending over £500 so that sister got her break and he girls got theirs.

The only one crying here is me!

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StyleCommander · 22/06/2017 12:24

And I am sorry, but a fucking thankyou and a kiss goodbye costs nothing.

I didn't even get a hug. My DH is dismayed at that. I booked and flew to Manchester, took a train and a bus and walked for 30 minutes.

How do you think that feels for someone that wants kids, but cant have them?

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NerrSnerr · 22/06/2017 12:25

So the plan was that she paid for two thirds of the weekend? I don't understand why you offered to take them if you didn't want to pay (or physically take them)

NerrSnerr · 22/06/2017 12:27

It's shit of the kids not to say thanks but it sounds like the kids tagged on to an adult weekend with all the drinking and smoking so maybe it just wasn't that much fun?

LiveLongAndProspero · 22/06/2017 12:29

I think you're the one who needs the maths class dear! You wanted to go 50/50, that means half each of the total spend.

If 400 quid had been spent before you went and you thought 200 would cover the spends on the rest, you can't count that as the 200 you are giving for your half of the 400. Because then out of a total cost of 600, you have spent 200 (one third) while your sister has spent 400 (two thirds).

Plus your budget was naive anyway.

StyleCommander · 22/06/2017 12:40

Are you all idiots, or is this because I'm male? 400 divded by 2 = 200.

I may not be a mathematics genius but I can divide. Sister paid the bill, and the plan was that I would splash the cash.

400 - 200 - +500 is not a hard sum to figure out.

My sister booked and I was to pay on the day. I just didn't know how expensive theme parks are.

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Ecureuil · 22/06/2017 12:44

So the plan was always that it was going to cost her twice as much as you?
She pays out £400 and you pay £200. Total spend £600, of which she pays 2/3?

diddl · 22/06/2017 12:48

If you & your sis both arranged it I'm not sure that a thank you was necessary?

Although a "nice to see you" & someoacknowledge of the time/effort taken to get there wouldn't have gone amiss imo.

So, did the 14yr old get to go on all the rides that she wanted to?

Sorry if it has been said & I've missed it.

Don't dwell on the disappointment though.

Things weren't well planned by either you or your sister, but surely you enjoyed you time with them even if it didn't fit the image that you had painted beforehand?

StyleCommander · 22/06/2017 12:50

They arent my kids. Sorry to be brutal, but they aren't my kids. I don't have to support my sister either. I do it out of the goodness of my heart. I love the girls and my sister. But I feel used.

The £400, I paid half, and then more. It was a constant drain on my bank which I'm now trying to make up as my Husband is livid.

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NerrSnerr · 22/06/2017 12:52

That's fine, they're not your kids but you offered to take them and pay 50-50.

DixieFlatline · 22/06/2017 12:52

Blimey, this thread really covers all bases, doesn't it? Something for everyone.

LiveLongAndProspero · 22/06/2017 12:53

No, you're not getting it all. If you paid 200 for the spends while there, you would have been paying ONE THIRD of 600 total spends. You would not be splashing the cash, you would have been paying half of what she paid.

Do you not get it?

Floralnomad · 22/06/2017 12:54

Are you saying that your sister paid £400 and you physically gave her £200 for your half and then you were going to to pay the costs on the day as well so all your sister actually spent was £200 . If that's the case you have not made that clear before . Also can you please answer the questions - did you go on the big rides or not and if not why ?

StyleCommander · 22/06/2017 12:57

Which is £200. HALF AND HALF. Me and my sister don;t do going Dutch. We just split bills equally.

Still I'm pissed off I didn't even get a goodbye hug and kiss.

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LiveLongAndProspero · 22/06/2017 12:57

She spent 400, you spent 530. She owes you half of 130, so 65 quid.

ILookedintheWater · 22/06/2017 13:00

We're not idiots: the cost of park and hotel was £400.
If you were going halves (£200 each) then there would have been no transport, no food, no drinks at all.
The real plan, which you and your sister failed to communicate to each other, was for her to cover £400, and then you to put in £400 for transport, food drinks (which would have been about right for the 4 of you excluding fags and alcohol I suspect). It was your misunderstanding.
The kids didn't behave particularly well (I'm not repeating your exact description) but actually, that is how kids often behave when tired/hungry/have been up early/are actually excited but too teenage to admit it, and for you to take their moodiness in that way shows you up a bit. You aren't a parent but you are an uncle and maybe, just maybe, you were an awkward teen/squabbling sibling once upon a time too. If you love them let it go.
Now. You say that your nieces had a good time, that your sister had a good time. Wasn't that what you wanted? You also describe everything as a steaming pile of mess.....if they all enjoyed it are you saying that it was a pile of mess because they did not say thank you to you, or because the kids squabbled, or because the teenager was a teenager? You lost nothing except time you wanted to spend and money you had under-budgeted for but could afford...and you did something nice for your family. Don't spoil that by being melodramatic now. You did a nice thing. Did you give the gift for yourself or for them?

StyleCommander · 22/06/2017 13:01

Floral, the place was packed. We did 13 (with the youngest one) and Nemesis. My younger niece has bigger balls than me!

We had a lovely couple of days, just I had to spend more cash than I expected.

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TieGrr · 22/06/2017 13:02

You and your sister are appalling at maths.

She spent £400 on hotels etc. You owe her £200 for that.

The £200 you'd planned to spend in the park is not the same £200 you owe her for the hotels.

Look at it this way - if she had paid for everything and you'd later given her half, she would have spent £400 on hotels and £200 in the park, which is £600. Half of that is £300.

ILookedintheWater · 22/06/2017 13:03

...and earlier in the thread your said that your DH wasn't angry, just laughing at how hopeless you and your sister were with money. Now you say he's furious. He can't be both. £200 was never enough, would never have been enough. It was a huge under estimate on your part. Not your sister's fault.

ShotsFired · 22/06/2017 13:05

OK, so sister paid £400 before you set foot in the UK - this is accommodation and park tickets, right?

You then arrived, and planned to give here £200 cash so you were even stevens, right? But you didn't give her that £200 in cash?

He husband was supposed to drop you all there (£0), but didn't, so you forked out for public transport (££), so now you are down on the deal.

You then paid out for all the food and drink on the trip to the theme park. Why had that not been accounted for before?

And then (randomly) bought some bread and milk for the house?

Plus all the fags and booze?

Not sure I get it, like most other pps.

StyleCommander · 22/06/2017 13:10

Water.

It was a steaming pile of mess because my sister and I didn't really plan too well, Bea was kicking off every 5 minutes about her phone not working and Mary was practically making new art work for the bus.

On mary's behalf though, she's pretty good!

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MiaowMix · 22/06/2017 13:17

TL:DR
BUT so much drama! So much Jeremy Kyle!
And your partner has your card - WHY? Don't you have financial independence?

ShotsFired · 22/06/2017 13:20

@MiaowMix And your partner has your card - WHY? Don't you have financial independence?

OP has explained earlier on that it is their card and account and they left it with the husband in case they needed money. It's not clear why there is only one card in total though.

However saying that, given one of the pair of them was travelling to the UK, that would seem a greater need for it than the other? Not sure why OP didn't just draw out a small amount of "emergency cash" for husband and taken the card themselves...

MiaowMix · 22/06/2017 13:23

@ShotsFired ok thanks - I saw that. But one card between two just sounds really odd? I mean, it kind of restricts freedom...