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AIBU to be really upset?

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StyleCommander · 21/06/2017 14:05

I'm not a parent, my paternal instinct (fortunately) came and went in the last couple of years. However, my nieces are really important to me (and I like the fact I can give them back). Anyway (this may be TL:DR)

My sister took her kids (14, 7 and 5) to Blackpool for my cousins wedding, and decided her, my bro in law and the kids could spend a day in the Pleasure Beach. My Eldest niece (not real name) Bea, wanted to do all the big rides and coasters, but not on her own. My sister is a proper wet end so wouldn't go on them with her and my Bro in Law is a little on the large side, OK a LOT on the large side, and couldn't fit. So Bea ended up not being able to do anything more thrilling than the Teacups.

My sister called me up and said she was a little upset for Bea, so I said I'd fly over (I live in Spain) and I'd take her and the older 2 girls to Alton Towers for a couple of days.

My Sister then booked everything and paid for the hotel, the tickets and told my Bro in Law to change his shift at work so he could drop us off and start later in the day or do the night shift.

It was decided that, because I was waiting to be paid, when we were there, I was going to be the one to splash the cash to make up for what I'd not paid. Thus bringing us to 50/50 in what we've paid each, which I thought was fair.

I then get a call from my sister the day before we left, telling me that Bro in Law didn't tell work about the plans, and we would have to get the train, then a bus. OK, that's not too bad, worse things have happened in the world, but it's still a ball ache.

So I booked the tickets, paid for the cab from the house to the station, and paid the £30 (£30 fucking pounds for a bus that's probably only just scraped through its MOT!) for the bus from Stoke to Alton.

At this point, because I had no card as my partner needed it in Spain, money was literally evaporating before my eyes (My partner only gave me £160 and £40 buffer in cash) and had only £60 left in my wallet having gone through the buffer and £100 just to get us there.

The kids have little routine when it comes to food. If they're peckish between meals, they go into the kitchen and grab a piece of fruit or have a couple of crackers with cheese, which I'm not really fussed about. I'll go into this in a sec.

However, the night before we left, my sister got absolutely drunk as a skunk, and I was then left to pack 4 peoples things into my small bag which was like a fabric version of playing Tetris. I then woke up at 5:00am, checked we had everything we needed and had breakfast planned for the kids (me and my sister don't eat until lunch). At 6:30am, I got the girls up, made their breakfast and got my sister up. I got the girls fed, dressed and watered and my sister FINALLY rolls out of bed at 6:45am has a coffee, cigarette, quick wash, does her hair and is good to go.

We left at around 7:30am to catch the train, got to Manchester, got the train and landed in Stoke at about 9:15ish. Literally 10 minutes before the bus was due. Ideal time for loo break and cigarette break.

We were hot, tired, frustrated and generally just picking fights with each other all the way there.

When we got to the park, which was around 11am me and my sister went to the bar to settle our nerves (far too early I know). I then proceeded to buy one of those all day free refill cup things for £6, which I worked out as being the cheapest option for us as money was seriously low.

At around mid day however, my younger niece started complaining she was hungry. I didn't really know what to do, so we put it off for another hour until I could work things out in my head and sat down at the Cafe near Oblivion where I got me and my sister another drink (we'd endured several 5 year old tantrums and several teenage bitch fits already).

I then transferred £100 from my account to hers (money that wasn't mine, but my husbands) and she insisted on going to a buffet. I'm not a big eater, neither is she, and the girls eat like normal kids. This amounted to just short of £50, which I thought was extortionate given that I was trying to keep it on a relatively small budget.

Anyway, I let that slide. It was a treat for the girls and they really enjoyed it.

After that we had a lovely first day, except for when I thought it would be a really good idea to walk into a lamp post!

We went back to the hotel (another £20 for the taxi) and had a few drinks and a little sharing platter (£20), so I transferred another £60, thinking £40 for the bar and £20 for another taxi back to the park.

However, we ran out of cigarettes and cash because my sister decided she only wanted wine (at £5 a small glass) as oppose to Cider and Black (£2.80 per pint). So I transferred another £30. £20 for the taxi, £10 for cigarettes.

Again, we had a nice time in the park, I got some quality time with my eldest niece and gave her a history lesson on the Towers and the house, and gave her a tour of the place, which bizarrely ended up with about 4 families also following me round and asking questions about the place and the history and the legend of The Chained Oak. I'm a history buff, and my ex is a history teacher specializing in local history.

My bro in law picked us up at the end of the day, and we went back to their house, where my sister got rapidly pissed after chugging a bottle of wine in under 30 minutes.

The morning after, the money again was gone, and we had no cigarettes, alcohol, tea, coffee, milk or fruit juice (we're not alcoholics, I just can't be arsed going to the shop 3 times in a day, so buy everything at the same time), so I transferred another £50. This was to get Tobacco, rolling papers, filters, Beer for me, Cider for her (I put my foot down, finally), Tea, Coffee, Milk and Juice and a couple of loaves to shove in the freezer for emergency use if she needs it.

Anyway. It gets to about 8:00pm, and I say I'm going back to my parents as my flight was early the next morning.

I didn't even get a thank you. Off any of them.

What was meant to be a 50/50 thing feels like it's been 90/10 thing. I feel hurt, embarrassed and used by my sister. I broke down crying to my mum, because what I had planned fell apart at the seams and Bea didn't get the experience I envisaged.

Money isn't an issue for me, I can't take it with me, so I spend it, however, the initial £400 that my sister spent seems to have ended up costing me the same and she's the one that got all the benefit while I'm trying to pacify my husband for spending £530 in 2 days.

Who is to blame here? Me for being an idiot, My sister for getting her £400 back with interest, or my Bro in law for being so selfish that his action led to the entire fiasco?

I'm a 29 year old man, I know how to budget, and I don't begrudge the girls anything. But to not even get a thank you or a kiss goodbye, I feel that's just adding insult to injury.

AIBU

OP posts:
Allthewaves · 22/06/2017 13:29

Your husbands right u and your sister do have the organisational skills if L and H Grin. Look you had a good time, you sis prob thought u meant to spend £400 too as that makes it equal. You had a nice time so stop stressing.

Next time get husband to help do a bit of research. Theme parks are very pricey

ooohahhh · 22/06/2017 13:41

There are so many things I can't get my head around

  1. the smoking & drinking around children at a theme park... Wtf?
  2. the fact you're so shit with money
  3. the fact you, as a grown man, cried to your mum about it HmmShock
  4. what on earth is a Guncle?
  5. that you are so poor but didn't even take a packed lunch with you to bloody Alton Towers! I always wondered who was stupid enough to eat and drink at theme parks and now I know.

This is one for Jeremy Kyle.

SeagullsStoleMyChurro · 22/06/2017 13:46

Oh good God this is strangely hilarious.
Most of your spending was on booze and fags!

Floralnomad · 22/06/2017 13:46

So if your sister went on Nemesis and 13 why couldn't she do the rides at Blackpool , apart from the Big One all the rides there are tamer than those , mainly because they are older style coasters .

Katedotness1963 · 22/06/2017 13:54

What a lot of time, money and drama over a 14 year old not going on a couple of roller coasters...

KanyeWesticle · 22/06/2017 14:00

I'm going to be a bit blunt.

You sound like a teenager yourself. Grow up. If you made a budget, stick to it. Don't spend on stuff that's not in the budget, and say no if your sister asks.

Next time, either plan to go with the flow - which you know means £££!, or make a plan and stick to it.

You're an adult and it's up to you. Stop blaming your sister and her kids for your lack of boundaries or control.

IHateUncleJamie · 22/06/2017 14:01

How do you think that feels for someone that wants kids, but cant have them?

But you said earlier that your parental instincts had been and gone, "fortunately". Plus lots of people can't have children. I'm not sure what that's got to do with it.

It's not very nice to call people idiots. Nothing to do with you being a man. You keep coming up with drip feeds why we should sympathise with your poor organisation and poor budgeting.

Also you keep ducking questions like did you hug and kiss them? If not, why not? I love my brother but I would have hugged him first if none was forthcoming, and jokingly said "Oi, what about a thank you?".

witsender · 22/06/2017 14:11

Fuck me this is hard work. Your £200 'spends' is not your contribution to her £400 bill. By that token the weekend would have cost £600, which would still make you £100 short. Your sums are all out.

And they're not your responsibility
You made them so by creating this whole shit storm because one child couldn't go on a ride...don't be so melodramatic.

And as for "how do you think that feels for someone who wants kids and can't have them?" In your first post you say you don't want kids?

Floralnomad · 22/06/2017 14:19

For those of us still finding this thread entertaining inconsistencies so far

  1. I don't want kids / I can't have kids
  2. sister is a wimp and can't do coasters/ sister can do coasters
  3. my 'hubby' thinks it's hilarious / my 'hubby' is livid . Have the summer holidays started early ?
CorbynsBumFlannel · 22/06/2017 14:20

This can't be for real. This wasn't a treat for the kids. By the sound of it they had to spend the day with a pair of grumpy adults desperately trying to scrape money together for booze and cigarettes.

livefornaps · 22/06/2017 14:23

Oh my lord, why am I still reading this?? Hahaha. Guncle, I have to say while you're shaky on the facts, your writing style is quite entertaining. Come back & run us through the sums again, would ya? How's the hubby doing?

LiveLongAndProspero · 22/06/2017 16:24

Have you understood the sums explained to you yet?

GeekyWombat · 22/06/2017 16:36

This is one for Jeremy Kyle.

Judge Rinder please!

DonkeyOaty · 22/06/2017 16:48

Okay. Have ploughed through the OP. Do I bother reading or just bin? Cheers m'dears.

Ecureuil · 22/06/2017 16:57

Depends if you've got any desire to bang your head against a brick wall, Donkey

DonkeyOaty · 22/06/2017 17:03

Naw I'll skip it then, thank you Ecu

Ellisandra · 22/06/2017 17:04

Me and my sister don't do going Dutch - we just split all bills equally.

Am I missing something? Grin

Katedotness1963 · 22/06/2017 17:44

I thought going Dutch was splitting the bill?

This reminds me of a thread a while back where the poster was mad at her sister over some necklaces she bought from her.

Two necklaces, one £45 and one for £30. Poster decided she didn't want the cheaper one and gave it back, got her money back and decided her sister was a thieving cow because now she had the necklace back and still had the £45. Pages of people pointing out she was wrong and she couldn't see it...

Ellisandra · 22/06/2017 18:09

Oh I remember that one! Should have been in classics!

GinSwigmore · 22/06/2017 18:24

Okay, so now having seen the maths, you didn't expect to be paying more than 200 quid and your sister agreed to pay the 400 rather than you splitting it 300 each. Then although I can still understand how the taxis/bus was annoying and put everyone in a bad mood/under stress but...you still would have been sharing petrol costs, no?
if you and Dsis agreed to a direct split between you then she owes you 65 quid as others have pointed out. If she drank you under the table with more wine than cheap cider, maybe towards 100 for goodwill.
but tbh if she had it in her head ''I've already paid out 400 quid'' she probably thought she was entitled to choose drink of her choice in copious quantities

Is your relationship with your Dsis/Dniece worth 65 quid to you at the end of the day?

Smudge100 · 22/06/2017 18:27

I think what you're saying is not that you resent spending the money, even though it was more than originally envisaged, but thst you feel used by your sister and upset by her lack of gratitude, which is understandable. I don't think that's unreasonable but the issue is what you do about it. You could talk to her about it but if she behaves like this, she probably won't be able to see your point of view anyway. Maybe next time work out what everything is going to cost beforehand and how you're going to divy up the cost.

Electrolens · 22/06/2017 18:57

Oh wow, this is still going. I am obsessed by the numbers.

Did dsis spend £400 and op arrange to bring £200 as 'spends' therefore paying a third of the total cost? And now upset to have paid a bit over half the total cost?

Craigie · 22/06/2017 18:57

You are all lunatics. How is it possible to be so spectacualarly disorganised and to spend more money than you would getting into Disneyland? Fags are not essential, and spending the day boozing when you are looking after kids is totally uncivilised. Crackers.

Katedotness1963 · 22/06/2017 19:21

Your sister spent £400 on tickets and hotel.

You brought £160
Plus buffer of 40
Transfer 100
Transfer 60
Transfer 30
Groceries. 50

Total. £440?

PokerRoomRules · 22/06/2017 19:25

Wow all this maths is making my head boggle

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