Teresa May

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Might get crucified for this but....

She won.

She's had a lot to manage a response and a
Plan to deal with since she became PM.

I didn't vote for her. My partner did.

I feel a bit sorry for her.

Anyone else?

You know what makes me feel ashamed of the human race? Not people slagging off Theresa May or saying she's a murderer. That doesn't bother me as much as the fact that people died because they lived in unsafe conditions that could easily have been prevented if dodgy builders didn't try to cut costs everywhere.

I saw the steve bell cartoon in the guardian (ok political cartoonist so paid to be harsh) and i thought it was unreasonably cruel. Yes that was disgusting.

"She's not good at showing how she feels - that doesn't make her evil."

But it isn't about how she feels. It's about how her actions and they leave much to be desired. Who cares how she feels?

It's about her engaging with the British people, being there when she is needed. Reassuring them when a large community has been murdered by sloppy policies and greedy contractors & councillors to give them her time of day to signal they matter because clearly they didn't matter to the council, the Conservative party that voted down a safe housing policy or private contractors.

In snubbing them on Thursday and hiding behind police men and talking only to the managers of the rescue services she signalled to the world that the inhabitants of Grenfell and the men who lay down their lives to rescue them are not worthy of her time.

That is what is despicable. And inexcusable.

And explaining her absence by claiming it's to do with security whilst our monarchs make a visit and speak to those traumatised by the fire.

O wow. I just watched the newsnight interview. May doesn't answer a single question. EM is firm and angry and May sidesteps everything. Awful.

The excuse for not going has changed. It was security and now she's saying that she focused on the needs of the emergency personnel on the visit.

That was the same reason this morning on Today with Damian Green.

Her interview is awful.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/17/theresa-may-avoids-questions-on-personal-response-to-grenfell-disaster

If she'd visited them on Thursday and there had been a terrorist incident, you'd all be up in arms that she had visited. There could have been more deaths and more injuries.

Security has to come first. She has done everything that has been asked of her by the Grenfell Tower Residents (access to money, criminal investigation, public enquiry, assuring they will be rehomed and giving them a timeframe as to when that will happen). Those things don't happen without someone spearheading the tasks to arrange them.

Anyway, who'd want a PM they feel sorry for?

But Boris ins't any better, when he was challenged about his role in cutting down fire services during his time as mayor he told the person who challenged him to "get stuffed" which was followed by laughter.

The conservative party have shown their true colours, they fundamentally believe there are the deserving and undeserving. And that they don't give a shit about the latter.

Orlantina Actually she said from the start that security meant she couldn't visit the residents, but she did need to go and check that the fire service were aware of what she was planning to do (and vice versa), and ensure the services had everything they needed at that time to do their operations. The "excuse" as you call it has not changed. Both these points were made from the start.

There is a very different security threat level when someone is well behind a police cordon and when someone is in a crowded area.

Monkey why should there have been a terror attack on Thursday? What bizarre notion. If you think like that the PM can't go anywhere ever because there is always a possibility of that happening. Don't try and divert from the issue, this isn't about Islamist terror but about systematic policy failure of keeping people safe in their homes. That's criminal in my book.

No matter how you dress this moneky nobody likes a coward. No PR effort will make the public forget how detached she is. And let's not start about her "I'm a bloody difficult woman" nonsense, or her risking peace in NI.

It's really laughable how people are trying to defend this woman.

If she'd visited them on Thursday and there had been a terrorist incident, you'd all be up in arms that she had visited. There could have been more deaths and more injuries

Please. Our PM has to be seen and has to be visible. Our elected officials can't hide behind such excuses.

She didn't go because she doesn't care. Too concerned about saving her untenable job.

Can't feel sorry for her. This mess is her own doing. She needs to go.

This guy could sort it, where's David Tennant when you need him?

HopefulMog No, no. No matter how you dress this we should not be putting members of the public at an increased risk of a terrorist attack.

If TM didn't care we wouldn't have seen the funds be released, we would haven't seen her ensure that people will be re-homed in a given timeframe, we wouldn't have seen her visit hospitals, the emergency services, and instigate the investigations.

Our PM can be seen and be visible - however, she can't do it when security dictates she can't. It increases the risk for everyone. It really is that simple.

A Primeminister who cannot speak to the citizens following a disaster is not fit to be Primeminister. End of. If she had gone and listened to them immediately after, they would not be so angry now. They have been ignored and dismissed for years and it has had a catostriphic result. How was further ignoring them ever going to help? I understand it is a sensitive time and I don't buy that she just doesn't care but I think she made a very bad call.

As for feeling sorry for her over the election - she cynically spent 130million pounds of public money on election she had repeatedly said she wasn't going to call. No I don't feel sorry for her that the democratic result wasn't the one she'd banked on.

If she'd visited them on Thursday and there had been a terrorist incident, you'd all be up in arms that she had visited. There could have been more deaths and more injuries

What a bizarre thing to say. And I'm not sure I buy the excuse of concerns about security arrangements - that didn't stop the Queen and Prince William visiting.

I feel sorry for her, because I'm human and regardless of which party she leads she looks awful and I wouldn't be surprised if she dropped dead from a heart attack. Speaking as someone who has family members on the spectrum I'd say she is Asperges. She doesn't deal well with people at all. I don't think she is heartless, uncaring and trying to save her job I think she is nervous of face to face confrontations. I also think she hasn't got the personality for politics. Look at Corbyn. He's smooth when it suits him, and really quite manipulative. Clever political moves. TM can't do smooth or manipulative. She is just brittle.

"that didn't stop the Queen and Prince William visiting." They visited Friday, as did TM.

"A Primeminister who cannot speak to the citizens following a disaster is not fit to be Primeminister."

Likely whoever would have been PM would have been in the same situation. Not just TM.

Likely whoever would have been PM would have been in the same situation. Not just TM

No excuses. The Queen and William managed to speak to the people. Her track record speaks for itself - she needs to be pushed and she responds to criticism eventually rather than doing the right thing first.

She could have been heckled. But she could have said what the PM needs to say way before she actually said it.

She has failed to judge the public mood.

Not known- quite agree with you and OP

Theresa may was NOT responsible for signing off the works at grenfell towers.

It's an absolute DISGRACE that people are calling her a murderer.

What the heck is this country coming to?

And her responses are EXACTLY the same as in PMQs.

Scripted..robotic, uncaring..

If you watch PMQs regularly, you can see what she is like. Dismissive.

What the heck is this country coming to

We have a Conservative party that doesn't give a shit about people at the bottom.

"I feel sorry for her, because I'm human and regardless of which party she leads she looks awful and I wouldn't be surprised if she dropped dead from a heart attack."

Ah no I don't feel at all sorry for her, its' her choice to be PM and act she she does, none is forcing her. I do feel sorry for those who have suffered heart attacks or are at risk and who cannot get benefits so have to either suffer poverty or go back to work and die.

Watch "I, Daniel Blake" and then decide who you feel sorry for.

"In a meticulously researched script written by Paul Laverty, Loach’s collaborator for 20 years, Blake, a widower, has had a serious heart attack. What follows are his struggles with the benefits system.

I watched the film with Alison Garnham, chief executive of Child Poverty Action Group and Marissa, a single mother with an autistic daughter of three, who has been on benefits since leaving an abusive partner. Marissa was in tears for much of the film; humiliation revisited. Each one of us has heard identical testimonies to those on the screen many times: not fiction, but painfully true stories."

www.theguardian.com/film/2016/sep/11/i-daniel-blake-ken-loach-director-film-movie-benefits-system

I suggest save your bleeding-heart for the right people.

Trailer

The documentary won several awards and is made by the director who produced Run Cathy Run if anyone remembers.

Theresa May strikes me as being an opportunist. She kept a low profile during the referendum so she was well positioned to be voted in as Tory leader. It was a gamble that paid off.

She chanced her luck again calling an unnecessary election. Pure opportunism again. Obviously it has backfired.

She is not a person I can admire. I cannot say how strongly I oppose her policies.

The way she has conducted herself, during and after the election appear to demonstrate that she is unsuited to a role she has coveted.

It's painful to watch but I don't think I can feel any sympathy.