Teresa May

[thegoodnameshadgone]

Might get crucified for this but....

She won.

She's had a lot to manage a response and a
Plan to deal with since she became PM.

I didn't vote for her. My partner did.

I feel a bit sorry for her.

Anyone else?

Rich people working hard made me laugh too. Can really see them working manual jobs to provide for their families.... oh wait, they don't need to.

If we have to have a Tory PM I'd at least like one who could lead the country.

Because no one that lived in that tower block worked, let alone worked hard, did they? No one from the so-called 'Working classes' ever works hard. - Did I say that? or are you just reading what you want from my post?

Hahaha at all rich people being hardworking - Did I say ALL?

I'd hazard a guess that the people in that tower block worked a damn site harder for fuck all - Your point? I'm assuming you have one?

It meant to say embarrassing to watch not embracing.

It is the generation of social media+Harry Potter+Hunger Games combined. only the Tory side calls Corbyn a messiah. No one else does. I don't think its got anything to do with social media (even though it helps galvanise groups of like minded people.) every generation where there has been issues, people find someone to cling to. The same applied to Barack, trump and now it going to be Jeremy Corbyn.
There has always been a messiah complex in a lot of world leaders.

Theresa May just happened to join the government at the wrong time. So much is going on and they need dealing with. The interesting thing is the men in the Conservative party all took a back step leaving her to waddle on like lame duck with all guns blazing.

"Won" is right because the Conservatives are the party who are in power as the government.
No, they are not in power without the DUP. That can change at any moment.

Rich people working hard made me laugh too. Can really see them working manual jobs to provide for their families - Of course, silly me, all rich people have inherited their money and not one of them has worked their way up from manual jobs. Doh!

Why do so many people despise wealthy people so damn much? It's odd and quite frankly disturbing. Especially given they are the ones propping the country up financially. No enough though is it? you still want more from them.

So what was your point SemiNormal if not to make MN users draw comparisons? 🤔

If you had a point it was surely lost

You know damn well what my point is. You just choose not to acknowledge it.

You don't have to be touchy-feel and possess incredible natural charisma to drum up some courage and actually try to connect with people who have just been through the most unimaginable horror.

You don't have to be touchy-feely to actually answer questions when interviewed instead of constant deflecting and non-answers.

I think in order to be able to lead effectively and serve the public you need to be able to communicate with them, especially in times of tragedy and crisis, and be seen to be doing so.

Do I feel sorry for her? Well, she has chosen this path. Nobody forced her to put herself forward to become PM, or Home Secretary before that. She didn't seem to find the responsibility too much when things were going her way and she was not being as heavily criticised as she has been since the GE was called.

I believe the mark of a good leader is how they react and conduct themselves when things get really tough. That's when you show what you're made of. That's when it truly matters. I don't think she has dealt well with any of the negative things that have happened over the last few weeks, in fact she has often reacted in ways which have seemed to be self-destructive in many ways.

So for these reasons I don't feel bad for her, just feel she really does need to admit this isn't the correct job for her.

And without the people at the bottom the rich wouldn't be able to be rich.

You know it.

Maybe, SemiNormal it has something to do with derision and dismissal often openly displayed, just as it appeared to be in your post.

OP - I think Kidlornol is probably referring to the £7 million plus taxpayers have coughed up annually to keep drinks and food prices down in Parliament for the well paid MP's.........and how that compares to the £5 million to be divided between 120 families of the Grenfell tragedy

So what was your point SemiNormal if not to make MN users draw comparisons? - I didn't have one. I was being facetious

You know damn well what my point is. You just choose not to acknowledge it - I genuinely don't know what your point is. That's why I asked.

*to be Prime Minister. On the way to that she found enough words to insult and ridicule Corbyn, but now has no words for the victims of this ghastly tragedy.

She held hands with Trump, but extended none to the Grenfell residents in their shock and grief.*
I would add the general public too. I had forgotten this.

Theresa May is a lizard in a skin suit.

And she hasn't "won" anything except the original leadership election which was not voted on by the public. The Tories didn't get enough seats for a majority so no they did not win the GE no matter how you slice it.

She is not touchy freely but she isn't the devil incarnate. She is not personally responsible for this tragic event but the left have been encouraging everyone to hate her, including children, because they lost the election and they see this as an opportunity to overthrow the democratically elected government... I don't like her but she is being ripped to shred because of her gender and social ineptness. She is a doer, not an emoter. A bit like a political Princess Anne.

I lost my confidence in her during the election campaign - she ran such an inept campaign, it's screwed parliament for the next 5 years, and set the scene for a return of the hard left.

As a "Lame Duck" prime minister, she should have stepped down. There were obviously no candidates willing to step up though, as she offered.

She now has the hardest job now of any British Prime minister since Churchill. She has Brexit to oversee, plus a safety issue with aluminium composite cladding, affecting a minimum of 21, and possibly hundreds of high rise blocks. That's alongside the normal process of government.

So she's coming out of a disastrous election campaign, with no political capital, and having to deal with a world of shit. I am feeling sorry for her to be honest.

Maybe, SemiNormal it has something to do with derision and dismissal often openly displayed, just as it appeared to be in your post - Really? I often see it as the other way around. The less wealthy berating the wealthy for .. well, being wealthy I guess.

They're not all bad though. I promise www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-homeless-victims-house-woman-offer-empty-student-flats-laura-jayne-cannel-a7793171.html

Anyway I feel my comment has derailed the thread somewhat so I apologise for that OP.

Yes I feel sorry for her. The poor woman has been in office less than a year but everything seems to be her fault.

Really? Is it not her fault that she chose to trigger an election (having spent weeks vehemently asserting that it she wouldn't dream of it) shortly before beginning Brexit talks? Was it not her decision to endorse a manifesto promising a dementia tax? Or to bring the return of fox hunting back into the political arena? Or to cock up her interview with Paxman, and refuse to debate with the other party leaders? Or to run a prolonged smear campaign against Corbyn and to continue even with it was glaringly obvious that the public wasn't buying it?

And, as home secretary, does she carry no blame at all for deciding to run down the police force and reduce funding for fire services?

If none of that was her fault at all, whose was it?

*she found enough words to insult and ridicule Corbyn, but now has no words for the victims of this ghastly tragedy.

She held hands with Trump, but extended none to the Grenfell residents in their shock and grief.*

Exactly. No I don't feel sorry for her. She didn't want to speak to victims in case they turned on her and it looked bad in the papers, that worked well.

People have lost their families and their homes. This is not about 'taking selfies'. She needed to look those people in the eye.

Fortunately op, MN isn't representative of the real world.

If TM was filmed hugging victims she'd be slated as crass and hypocritical, if she keeps herself away from the cameras she's a 'cold hearted bitch'.

I do think MN is sadly populated by a left wing campaign group that dominates almost any thread making it impossible to have a reasonable unbiased discussion. Almost every thread turns into a hysterical attack on the tories.

MN is a shining example of how hatred and intolerance of different views and beliefs is spread via the internet.

What is the right way now?

I raised this thread.

What is the best way forward?

No Semi It's the tax payers, that prop up the country hence we have tax credits and services - I agree that some wealthy people use tax avoidance schemes but if they ALL did it the country would struggle immensely. In fact I doubt the country could cope at all.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/19/tax-burden-wealthy-has-trebled-since-1970s-telegraph-analysis/

For us generally in the U.K.???

I don't feel sorry for TM at all. She made a calculated decision to stand for the leadership of the Tories. She won that role by default because the other candidate was a complete outsider with very limited experience.

TM failed as Home Secretary, she failed with Brexit and now she has failed as PM. Why anyone is surprised is beyond me. She was out of her depth as Home Secretary and was not qualified to be PM in the first place. After today and seeing Angela Leadsom go to the site she showed more leadership I kinda wish she hadn't stepped down.

I really fear for the UK and TM neigotating Brexit on our behalf. We all know she is going to screw it up.