Teresa May

[thegoodnameshadgone]

Might get crucified for this but....

She won.

She's had a lot to manage a response and a
Plan to deal with since she became PM.

I didn't vote for her. My partner did.

I feel a bit sorry for her.

Anyone else?

All she had to do was turn up. That's all she had to do.

I wonder if she really knows how she comes across? Maybe she doesn't care but I think it's going to hurt her and her party.

"All she had to do was turn up. That's all she had to do. "

Due to security she couldn't.

She did go on Friday when the risk was reduced.

I wonder if she really knows how she comes across?

To YOU. Everyone sees these things differently. I'm no particular TM fan, for the record, but I do not want to see the PM of this country weeping and wailing and "empathising" for a good pic for the papers (JC, I'm looking at you in that last bit) in a pathetic attempt to curry favour with people who are determined to criticise whatever she does.
She has been to the scene twice now, invited people to Downing St and there are quite likely plans for further visits. She is almost certainly spending her time dealing with things behind the scenes, not to mention her everyday job of, you know, running the country and organising Brexit (which, by the way, she didn't ask for).

I'm much more interested in

She has certainly not done enough to assist with the tower fire .
The army should have been deployed to help with organisation and set up a field kitchen to feed residents.
A help tent should have been set up with housing and social workers etc to assist people.
All simple ideas that have not been done simply left to volunteers to do.

I wonder if she is surrounding herself with yes-men and -women. People who don't dare to tell her when she's handling a situation badly, be that her frequent no-shows, ill-thought out policies, or soundbite interviews.

Actually, Monkey, the leaked letter shows her intentions. She hasn't actually carried through all those plans yet. I still think she isn't up to the job and neither does a significant majority of the country.

but I do not want to see the PM of this country weeping and wailing and "empathising" for a good pic

Why the fuck do you think it has to be weeping and wailing?

But empathy? I think empathy in a politician is a good thing. When she was discussing nurse's pay on QT, I saw no empathy. None at all.

I don't think she seems capable of empathy. I want a politician who is capable of that.

"A help tent should have been set up with housing and social workers etc to assist people. "

This was set up, on Wednesday. Along with the Red Cross being there. They also had a medical area set up with doctors and nurses.

Dawndonnaagain I was going off her statement I thought (it was in the news); also mentioned the 5 million pound fund, housing in the local borough or neighbouring boroughs, public inquiry and timescale for being rehomed. Did that all really come from leaked letters?!

No, it didn't - she did make a statement.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/grenfell-tower-fire-theresa-may-emergency-fund-money-victims-latest-news-a7794116.html

"Orlantina*

astute observation wrt Hurricane Katrina and George Bush.

monkey
"Mog, think you need to go and re-read some of your posts; you say several times that the security threat was actually May being afraid of the residents, rather than any actual threat. Several times. "

No need, no time this is not my job after all

I have said that I think May didn't want to meet with residents because she is scared of talking to a.) real people and b.) people who are not part of the privileged Tory bubble who might ask tough questions, about how this was allowed to happen to their families and what she would do to support them. I don't think and have not said that she was scared of meeting with them because of potential physical danger, only danger to her image pretence of being a PM who allegedly leads a strong and stable country that works for everyone. Just to reiterate she didn't avoid the community due to security reason but to protect her political image, which obvs backfired spectacularly, even her Tory chums are saying that she didn't handle this well.

May was not concerned about being physically attacked as monkey is suggesting just anxious about talking to people who haven't been carefully screened and primed so that she has full control of the interaction. Meeting selected victims in number 10 her home turf is continuing in the same way.

"May was not concerned about being physically attacked as monkey is suggesting"

I AM SUGGESTING NOTHING OF THE SORT. You are the one saying she was avoiding the angry residents.

I have said time and time again it was TERROR RELATED SECURITY RISLS.

even her Tory chums are saying that she didn't handle this well

Exactly. And some Tories who are no longer politicians such as Michael Portillo and Matthew Parris.

Other prominent Tories have been notably absent from the airwaves.

"Meeting selected victims in number 10 "

Oh, "selected" Did the residents not chose who they wanted to represent them?

I have said time and time again it was TERROR RELATED SECURITY RISLS

So how come people like Damian Green didn't say that? Why didn't she say that?

How many Tory MPs are defending her at the moment?

Tomorrow will be interesting on the news shows. And PMQs will be fascinating next week.

Bear in mind that there might well be some people in the crowd who are not family and friends at all.

Exactly.
Most posters get that.

Only one poster wilfully twisted that into:
"do you really think that the families who know that their mother, father, brother, child, baby burnt to death slowly or are still in the process of being burnt to death are going to attack the PM? "

"How many Tory MPs are defending her at the moment?" I've actually seen a few today, and a few yesterday defending her.

They said it was a security risk - they also said during the early stages of the investigation that terrorism was one line they were trying to rule out (which they did, thankfully early on).

I still think she isn't up to the job and neither does a significant majority of the country.

And you know that how? The last election we had, way back in ... oh, wait... just last week, told us that the majority do think she is up to the job (or they wouldn't have voted Tory). Just because the front pages are screaming for God knows what does, does not mean that that has changed significantly.

Just because the front pages are screaming for God knows what does, does not mean that that has changed significantly

You really think that?

Things have changed massively. We have a real opposition, a weakened Prime Minister who needs the DUP to get their Queen's speech through, terrorist threats, Brexit starting, inflation rising etc.

Things have changed and I fear this is going to be a long hot summer of discontent.

All she had to do was turn up. That's all she had to do.

It really wasn't.
She had plenty of stuff to do wrt the fire, and plenty of other stuff to do on top of that.

I understand what you mean though, as in that's all she had to do to (immediately) - to show people that she cared & to give them an opportunity to vent at her.

I really do think though that she kept out of the way so as to not intrude on the job the emergency services were still involved in at the time, and also a misplaced sense that it would be viewed as political capital.

She has been faultless in her actual tangible actions wrt the situation though.
Some people show they care by doing, rather than emoting - I think she's one of those people.

Fautless my arse. Fucking useless more like.

She had plenty of stuff to do wrt the fire, and plenty of other stuff to do on top of that.

Ah now she didn't turn up due to a timetable clash. Right.

There is some very shady posters on this thread

We have a real opposition, a weakened Prime Minister who needs the DUP to get their Queen's speech through, terrorist threats, Brexit starting, inflation rising etc.

And? That's deflecting from your previous post. You said, as if you were some sort of authority on it, that "a significant majority of the country" doesn't believe she's up to the job. I think that's wishful thinking on your part.