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Teresa May

621 replies

thegoodnameshadgone · 16/06/2017 22:49

Might get crucified for this but....

She won.

She's had a lot to manage a response and a
Plan to deal with since she became PM.

I didn't vote for her. My partner did.

I feel a bit sorry for her.

Anyone else?

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Orlantina · 17/06/2017 16:12

Politicians do have to go to places where they are not popular. To face the public.

Or should politicians not be exposed to that?

Should they only go places where people are not going to express their anger and concerns?

Should they only address friendly audiences?

scaryteacher · 17/06/2017 16:14

Orlantina Since when was it mandatory to answer a question posed by a journo?

Had she said ' I thought it was more important to make sure the practical issues were taken care of and that people were being rehomed, and had access to money to help and support them, as opposed to intruding on their grief' instead of 'What I have done is...etc', would that have satisfied you?

MonkeylovesRobot · 17/06/2017 16:14

They should not go to places where they are going to increase the security risk to themselves, and the public, as well as the overstretched emergency services.

Orlantina · 17/06/2017 16:16

Since when was it mandatory to answer a question posed by a journo

Or a member of the public?

That's what she does. Fails to answer questions. Fails to connect.

And that's why she's failed to get her landslide.

HopefulMog · 17/06/2017 16:17

"HopefulMog No, no desperation here. You are the one alluding the fact that these people are so angry they are posing the security risk to the PM. " Monkey you must have me confused with another poster. I have said throughout this thread that theresa May should have gone to the site and spoken to those who were affected by the fire eye to eye. I never said once that she was in any danger and other politicians including Jeremy and Sadiq did go and meet face to face with survivors ask soon as possible. Theresa May did not. She met with a select few people because she doesn't give a shit and is crap with unscripted encounters with the public as she lacks the skills to conduct herself well in these situations. She can't think on her feet and is only full of sound bytes. Maybe she didn't want to impose her sound bytes on the poor families who knows. I neither think there was any risk of a terror attack or any spontaneous violence from the community.

Just to clear that up.

As I said monkey you believe in Maybot, more fool you i say.

thatdearoctopus · 17/06/2017 16:22

May has to go.

Isn't that what they said about Corbyn a while ago, when numerous members of his own shadow cabinet walked out because they had no confidence in him?

MonkeylovesRobot · 17/06/2017 16:22

Mog, think you need to go and re-read some of your posts; you say several times that the security threat was actually May being afraid of the residents, rather than any actual threat. Several times.

You even call be paranoid when I say it was a security risk (as the government shared with us from the start).

Orlantina · 17/06/2017 16:24

Do people remember the response to Hurricane Katrina by George Bush?

This seems like that. I'm rewatching the Newsnight interview. It's awful/

Orlantina · 17/06/2017 16:29

This is the worst part.

"Do you accept that you misread the public mood, and they resent you not visiting them.?"

""This was a terrible tragedy that took place. People have lost their lives and others have lost everything, all their possessions, their home and everything. What we are doing is putting in place the support that will help them"

No mention of security concerns.

NewspaperTaxis · 17/06/2017 16:30

I feel sorry for her a bit, though it's odd to say that in contrast to what other people are going through this week.

It reeks of a Shakespearian tragedy really, in particular the machinations of Kristal Tits and Alastair aka Fiona 'Lady Macbeth' Hill and Nick Timothy. Whoever prophecied a Tory landslide played her false and the advance of Corbyn must seem as likely as the march of the trees on the Scottish king's stronghold - yet it's happening.

Now Lady Macbeth's replacement is a fellow who really may have blood on his hands, relating to Grenfell Tower.

That said, it's possible she called the election to put her personally in such a strong position she could ditch the right-wing, goalhanding Brexiteers like David Davies and Chris Grayling, and make way for new talent. (Hence the emphasis, possibly, on making the campaign all about T May, not the Conservatives, and keeping the manifesto on lockdown.) As it turns out, she's now stuck with them which is ironic because it's due to Labour's success that we may be forced to endure a more right-wing Cabinet, in bed with the DUP.

It's like the way everyone deserted the Lib Dems over tuition fees, only to land as with a Conservative majority and, on the back of that, Brexit. Democracy in action doesn't always get you what you want.

As for Grenfell, well, on any day of the week everyone says politicians are liars and phonies, only in it for themselves, but in times of national tragedy or when someone passes away, we all look to the PM for guidance, like they're suddenly the Archbishop of Canterbury. You can't have it both ways.

That said, the whole Grenfell tragedy reeks of Tory-led council penny pinching and farming out their responsibilities to whoever will do the job on the cheap, so that really doesn't help the party as a whole to get sympathy.

scaryteacher · 17/06/2017 16:30

Orlantina I loved the way you didn't answer my second question....if you would have been satisfied, then it's a matter of semantics surely.

thatdearoctopus · 17/06/2017 16:30

She ...... is only full of sound bytes.

Says a Jeremy Corbyn supporter???!!!! Grin Grin

MonkeylovesRobot · 17/06/2017 16:31

"No mention of security concerns." Perhaps because it had been well publicised and yet people still chose not to believe it. It was stated from the start on Wednesday (remember they actually questioned whether this was a terrorist incident itself on Wednesday)

thatdearoctopus · 17/06/2017 16:33

"Do you accept that you misread the public mood, and they resent you not visiting them.?"

Perhaps she thought she'd pass on what was a ridiculous, speculative and shit-stirring question and treat it with the contempt it deserved, but more politely. Anyway, how the fuck does Emily Maitlis know what hundreds of residents think?

Orlantina · 17/06/2017 16:33

if you would have been satisfied, then it's a matter of semantics surely

I don't know what Corbyn's doing. He's not Prime Minister with the power and authority to get things done.

I don't know what Khan's doing.

I do know that Corbyn and Khan went to meet the people involved very quickly. Khan got heckled and faced the people.

Theresa May hid.

Orlantina · 17/06/2017 16:35

Anyway, how the fuck does Emily Maitlis know what hundreds of residents think

Maybe she's been reporting from there and meeting people?

TiggyD · 17/06/2017 16:36

Why is this not in the politics section?

paxillin · 17/06/2017 16:40

For the same reason "What's for dinner" isn't in cookery and "teenage theft" isn't in parenting I imagine.

MonkeylovesRobot · 17/06/2017 16:43

"Maybe she's been reporting from there and meeting people?"

I actually haven't seen her there, or seen any reports of her there- I would actually be interested to know if she has actually visited and spoken to residents?

Orlantina · 17/06/2017 16:43

Says a Jeremy Corbyn supporter

But this thread isn't about him. It's about the Prime Minister. I bet there are some people on here who have concerns over Theresa May and who aren't Corbyn fans.

It's not an either or situation. It's a situation where our leader of the country has shown she is not up to the job of being our leader.

thatdearoctopus · 17/06/2017 16:45

It's a situation where our leader of the country has shown she is not up to the job of being our leader.

In your opinion. Just last week a greater number of people voted for her party (and therefore her) than did for Labour under Corbyn.

Orlantina · 17/06/2017 16:46

I actually haven't seen her there

Read her Twitter feed. You'll see what's she's done.

twitter.com/maitlis

Orlantina · 17/06/2017 16:47

Just last week a greater number of people voted for her party

And she's shown that she is not up to the job.

MonkeylovesRobot · 17/06/2017 16:47

Thanks Orlantina

Good to see she was communicating with families.

MonkeylovesRobot · 17/06/2017 16:48

"And she's shown that she is not up to the job."

Not in my opinion she hasn't. She's doing a stellar job and has done all the residents have requested of her in a short timeframe.

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