To remind you of the protest march in London on July 1st?

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People's Assembly

For those of us who are sick and tired and angry and devastated.

How can I condone something that hasn't happened. Why would it be my duty to do so anyway?

Sigh demonstrating IS democratic. Arguing there should be no demonstrations is ANTI democratic

There is no coup. Nor is a coup possible in Britain with strong rule of law (it's the mail attacking the judiciary remember).

But if they had an ounce of integrity or honour, a shred, the Cabinet would resign.

They have damaged the nation.

To add....the Torygraph is hell bent on demonising the poor

ever Are you suggesting that the incident of the man being attacked, as reported in the Telegraph, didn't happen?

A day of rage? Ffs, can't we have a sodding day of unity?

Society has become argumentative and angry.

Of course it's absolutely not right that the man was attacked. It's awful.
People are furious about the fire, many I suspect feel as though their friends and family were murdered and their rage, anger and upset may well have boiled over. (as we don't know who the attackers were, we can't say that for sure)

That doesn't mean that we cannot have peaceful protest. You are setting up one awful incident as a way of shutting down our rights. Totalitarianism is not the answer.

If you are unawarevof the bias of the Torygraph I reAlly can't help you

If you wish to divert attention from the hundreds of poor and vunerable people that have died onto one person who has been attacked I really can't help you

I've not even seen a call for a 'day of rage'. If rage means getting out and protesting, well I can see why people are really angry. I don't however in anyway condone any sort of violence or riot.

Using the word rage - 'outrage' would have more reasonable. But rage? Rage gets you nowhere.

Using the word rage - 'outrage' would have more reasonable. But rage? Rage gets you nowhere.

A piece of advice, I wouldn't try to entertain the thoughts and feelings running through the minds of these poor people right now. It must be awful...

Too, please remember that people are still living in buildings that may be just like that one, or worse.

If you are unawarevof the bias of the Torygraph I reAlly can't help you

I asked you a straightforward question as to whether you believed that the man was attacked. If you believe that discussion about facts is meaningless because the press has bias, I can't help you.

If you wish to divert attention from the hundreds of poor and vunerable people that have died onto one person who has been attacked I really can't help you

The victims of the fire were not deliberately killed. If we go down the road of condoning/ignoring deliberate acts of violence against innocent people because a disaster has happened, we are getting into very dangerous territory as a society.

make agreed

Cross sigh. Yes someone has been attacked. BUT to concentrate on that rather than the issues behind it is niave. Cost cutting has cost lives

The Tirygraphs bias regarding protesters has been shameful. But if you like that echo chamber keep reading.

I repeat it is an anti austerity march. Whats your problem? Really what is your problem with it

Not one poster can actually say other than it seems to worry them that we are using our democratic rights. There was a march on Saturday. Did your world's cave in?

I am not "concentrating" on anything. I don't believe in being selective with facts. You seemed to be trying to suggest the incident hadn't happened, but you have now said that you believe it did, which is fine.

We don't need a March of rage or outrage there's been enough hate and killing abs suffering lately in this country.

We need healing and bonding and love. March for that.

At no point did I say it hasn't happened. But OK believe what you want....

I am wait as I said there was a march on Saturday. And all was well.

The sky hasn't fallen in

DS checking out building regs and is planning to write to Theresa May to ask why older buildings don't need to have sprinklers and who is responsible in private and public property for safety. His friend is organising a fundraiser.

We walked past missing posters and have a second connection to people who died in the tower. It's just shocking. Numbing. Unbelieveable.

I was at the demo on Saturday. It was entirely peaceful. There was music and a lot of speeches.

Healing and love are needed, but we also need change. That is why we protest.

Good for you Badkitten As was the pro EU march

I think some people need to get out of their armchairs and actually go on a march to see and feel the comaraderie. Then they can speak from a point of experience rather than hyperbole

Healing and love are needed, but we also need change. That is why we protest.

Again, great truth on this thread.

I've now had a look at the Day of Rage thing. I'm working in London that day, but I'll be staying well clear. As with all causes there are more extreme groups who take things far too far. Protest - yes, demand change - yes. Riot - no.

But of course this thread isn't about Wednesday, it's about 1st July, a march which is expected to be a peaceful demonstration.

Sadly the march on Wednesday is close to the mosque where a relative was going to on Wednesday to say prayers for her friends killed in the tower. She is worried about going now in case it kicks off.

Hhhmm Wednesday march is SWP I think. I wouldn't attend one of theirs if you paid me. Very very dodgy views. Including about religion

However I would hope that they would divert? I hope

"Hhhmm Wednesday march is SWP I think. I wouldn't attend one of theirs if you paid me. Very very dodgy views. Including about religion

However I would hope that they would divert? I hope"

You think? but but but .......(you really dont get irony do you ever)

Anyway, for anyone struggling to understand the difference

This is the Day of Rage

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/17/grenfell-community-fear-day-rage-protest-could-descend-riots/

Marching and protesting about the governments austerity measures that they believe led to the Grenfell tragedy. Action must be taken to take down this rotten government which has lost all authority to govern.

This protest is a bad protest.

Then theres the July 1st Protest, supported here.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/15/john-mcdonnell-calls-one-million-protesters-take-streets-bid/

Marching and protesting about the governments austerity measures (that they believe led to the Grenfell tragedy). Action must be taken to take down this government and force a general election.

This is the good protest. Theres cakes and music and everything.

Do you actually know about the SWP? Clearly not...and did you know the EDL march had issues. Clearly not

But carry on being anti democractic to the many peaceful protesters. I had the same crap on here about the anti EU march. Did it bring the government down or stop Brexit? No they are doing that 'all by themselves.

If you have that much of an issue about people converging and policing why not complain about people drinking in pubs and clubs every weekend in almost every high street.

PS Torygraph? Really?