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Nuisance Nanny - part 2. The Aftermath.

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Writerwannabe83 · 13/06/2017 19:37

Sorry for the delay in starting the new thread but blimey, what a nightmare this is turning out to be Sad

I went round there, Mr NDN let me in and showed me through to the living room where Mrs NDN was on the sofa. I smiled at her and went straight in to my apology about swearing at her and how I shouldn't have done it, that I was just angry and frustrated and that I had lost my temper. I said I had simply been confused about the Nanny's behaviour, her excuses, the mixed up stories etc and that I had let myself get too wound up but that I shouldn't have sworn like I did. I was sincere (because I did mean it) and I genuinely thought she would accept my apology but she went mental on me.

She basically ignored what I'd said and launched into me about how unhappy she was about the fact she'd come home to find her Nanny all upset because apparently I'd been threatening and intimidating towards her!!!!!!

Mrs NDN then said that I should be ashamed of myself for upsetting a young woman so much and that if I had any problems with their Nanny then I should be speaking to her and her DH as the employers, not being aggressive towards the Nanny herself which is a complete U-Turn from what she said to me yesterday!!

I started to try and explain about the parking but she brushed me off and said she knew I'd parked across their drive and that the Nanny had simply made an innocent mistake by parking across my drive again as she'd honestly believed I was at work and that my response to park across their drive had been a total overreaction.

I said to Mrs NDN that yesterday she told me that if I had any issues with the Nanny then I was take it up directly with the Nanny, so why now is she having a go at me for having done doing exactly that?!

It was so bizarre!! Yesterday Mrs NDN was throwing her Nanny under the Bus but during her rant at me she was acting as though the Nanny is all pure and wholesome!

Apparently the Nanny has told the NDNs that she needs some time to think about whether she can continue working with them as she no longer feels comfortable working in an environment where she feels vulnerable!!!

It's absolutely crazy!!!!!
I feel like I'm living on another planet.

Mr NDN didn't really say anything, he just sat there whilst his wife ranted at me.

I'm back home now and have been quite tearful about it to DH. I genuinely wasn't aggressive or threatening to the Nanny, I was just being firm. I feel like I'm now the Bad Guy in this situation and the Nanny is the victim. It didn't even occur to me that I might be upsetting the Nanny when I spoke to her before I moved my car.....I didn't think she was the type of person who could get upset....she's been so bloody unbelievable that I thought she'd be too brass necked to feel intimidated by anyone.

I'm just so shocked and this really wasn't what I was expecting.

My DH is furious and I've had to hold him back from going round there himself. He said the Nanny has obviously just turned on the waterworks to the NDN to save her own skin and portray me as the one being in the wrong to take the focus off what she'd done.

I want to believe him, I can imagine the Nanny probably would be that manipulative but it doesn't make me feel any less crap or upset Sad

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Redsippycup · 13/06/2017 20:26

OP you didn't do anything wrong, and your DH is 100% correct. Please let him go round and talk to Mr NDN. Flowers

PoorYorick · 13/06/2017 20:27

Would you trust a liar and manipulator without common decency to look after your kids well?

I really think this is a bit dramatic. Nanny parked like a twat and tried to wriggle out of it. It isn't a sign of great character but it's rather a leap from that to "and I bet she feeds the kids shit and parks them in front of the box all day and they're not safe in her care".

DailyMailReadersAreThick · 13/06/2017 20:28

PoorYorick

Strawman. Nobody has suggested she treats the children badly, and nobody has suggested she shouldn't be in charge of children because she's a bad parker. She shouldn't be in charge of children because she can't be trusted.

PoorYorick · 13/06/2017 20:29

And OP, I really wouldn't do the notes thing. Everyone likes writing notes to have their say with no immediate response, but nobody likes receiving them. (See the response to a thread yesterday when someone left a note on someone's car.) I'd sleep on it, wait and see what happens tomorrow. If Nanny really is feeling so threatened, she won't park across your drive again.

Foxysoxy01 · 13/06/2017 20:29

Tbh I would send you DH round.

It really is v. Unreasonable to ask you into their home to then give you a barrage of abuse and intimidate you when completely alone! I presume they also closed the door so effectively shut you into their home to aggressively berate you.

I imagine they would be in quite an amount of shit if you were to lodge a complaint. In fact I would be sending DH round to say that you are lodging a complaint for shutting you in their house alone and intimidating you.

DailyMailReadersAreThick · 13/06/2017 20:29

Let's say one of the children gets hurt and it's nanny's fault. Is she going to admit that to NDN, or lie her way out of any trouble?

Not a leap at all.

Tapandgo · 13/06/2017 20:29

spadequeen is right
Don't be bullied by them. You are in the right - they are inconsiderate morons, and sounds like NDN guy is under his wife's instructions!

FuckCalmRhageOn · 13/06/2017 20:30

Wow Nanny is certainly a master manipulator and Mrs ndn is no better.
I'd keep things cordial but firm and take photos of any wrong doing. She sounds batshit crazy and I wouldn't be shocked if she found a way to report you.

You've done nothing wrong so fuck her and her oil leaking shed of shit!

Dominithecat · 13/06/2017 20:30

Back in the original thread you said quite rightly that wherever the nanny parks is not your problem as long as it's not blocking your drive, this possibility of ndn losing childcare is also not your problem. Yes of course it's shit if it happens to them, although I seriously doubt that, but why is Mrs ndn trying to guilt trip you over their childcare arrangements.

You were not wrong, you didn't escalate this whole situation, the nanny did by assuming you were at work and would never know that she had been so lazy again.

Honestly no one buys a house with a driveway and then hopes someone just randomly parks inconsiderately so the drive can't be used.

We have similar with various people parking over the drive just for 10 minutes. Usually say nothing as it really is 10 minutes and we like all our neighbours. But that would change if someone was there longer or refused to move or the like

ShoesHaveSouls · 13/06/2017 20:30

OP, there could be many reasons why they've behaved as they did -

-Nanny could have manipulated them into believing you were really intimidating to her (I don't believe you were).

-They might be concerned about child care..

-They could be twats who don't believe they're ever in the wrong (although the DH was nice yesterday)

But whatever the reasons - they are in the wrong. Their employee is parking over your drive, despite being asked many times not to.

And yes, shame on them - inviting a pregnant woman into their house to abuse her Angry Have a hug from me too.

user1472334322 · 13/06/2017 20:31

Thank you #trb17! Off to rtft now!

Pennina · 13/06/2017 20:31

At the end if the day they're in the wrong. Their nanny is obstructing your drive. Their behaviour as police officers is outrageous, and to be so aggressive towards you whilst pregnant is inexcusable. I can't understand why they do not understand that it is unacceptable for them or their employee to block your drive. You could consider reporting them to the police if it happens again! A complaint against them (letter to the chief constable?) would certainly put a stop to it!! I'm completely baffled as to why they think it is a reasonable thing for their nanny to block your drive. Strange people

tasmaniandevilchaser · 13/06/2017 20:31

sorry, can I ask a random question - what happened with the Army Dad parking thread? I must have missed the end of that thread.... (and I was a bit in love with Army Dad!)

SauvignonBlanche · 13/06/2017 20:32

Do the NDNs know you're PG?
You need this nonsense stopping before you go on Mat leave.

wheatchief · 13/06/2017 20:33

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Deemail · 13/06/2017 20:34

Stop feeling sorry for Mrs ndn, she's twisting the situation to fit herself.
Yesterday she threw the nanny under the bus today it's you. She needs to accept responsibility that she employs is causing hassle with the neighbours, partly down to the nanny been lazy and partly down to them not wanting their own drive way been messed up.

I would put get this sorted tonight. Let your dh go around. Get him to calmly say that despite numerous requests you've still been having an issue. Let them know your drive way is out of bounds and that's it's up to them to sort some sort of parking Rota between themselves and leave your household out of it.

If the "poor young Nanny" was so intimidated by the way you spoke to her yesterday, where on earth did she find the bravery today to park again on your drive (the very thing that's the issue) and risk such intimidation?

waitforitfdear · 13/06/2017 20:34

All getting too hot here op. Don't blame you but deep breath as not your fault.

By all means let your dh go round and say

1.. nanny is not to park across your drive again ever for any reason end of.

That's it pure and simple. Their dramas and child care problems are theirs and not your problem.

Have a Wine and you did good love. Don't get sucked in.

TheSnorkMaidenReturns · 13/06/2017 20:35

I think your DH needs to sit down and write down his points and go to see the NDN.

The easy solution for them is that they allow her to park on the drive. It's not rocket science.

It's bizarre to call in a pregnant woman to be rude to her for being rude.

But it's why bullies get away with it.

Arthur2shedsJackson · 13/06/2017 20:35

OP I really think you should write up a précis of what has happened and who said what to whom since this whole thing started. Bullet points would work.
And you have the (incontrovertible)evidence of this thread and the last one as to times etc when things actually happened.
You write really well ( sorry, hope that doesn't sound patronising! ) and as long as you present the facts as they happened to your NDNs I would hope that at least the more reasonable Mr NDN might take on board what you are saying. Another apology ( bite the bullet ) for losing it with Mrs NDN and maybe the air will be cleared. Worth trying.

IsabelleSE19 · 13/06/2017 20:35

I'm sorry OP - that must have been horrible. They were already in the wrong and have now made it even worse!

Agree with others to try and de-escalate a bit for now, but maybe your DH could go round and ask why they think it is totally acceptable for their employee to block your driveway on the off chance you're at work all day, but UTTERLY UNTHINKABLE for their own driveway to be blocked while they're definitely out all day?! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills - what's wrong with them?!

AnnetteCurtains · 13/06/2017 20:36

Their child care issues are not your problem
Don't go round again
Write notes about what has happen so far and save this and the other thread
The next time it happens ring the police and report the nanny

SaturnBelt · 13/06/2017 20:37

May I ask OP, how far are you along in your pregnancy? I just wanted to say congrats. Also don't stress - even though it's easier for the floodgates to flow in such a situation. You've given me the most amazing read home, it's taken me more than an hour and we are all behind you, which is deserving of a Mumsnet Award! May I suggest that you speak to Nuisance Nanny and say you will have a role available for her shortly if she does tender her resignation? I would love to see how Mrs NDN would react!!!!

Writerwannabe83 · 13/06/2017 20:38

Do the NDNs know you're PG?

I'm 7 months gone and massive so they'd have to be blind if they hadn't noticed Grin

I've calmed down a bit now and don't feel quite so guilty or doubtful. My guess is that the Nanny saying she needs to consider whether she can continue working for them is just another sob story to get sympathy to further enhance my image as the Evil Neighbour.

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PoorYorick · 13/06/2017 20:39

DailyMail, I am really responding to Mummmy2017's comment: "if they can't trust the Nanny not to park over your drive, how can they trust her to not feed the child food they don't want, or to leave it screaming while she watches TV.'

Honestly, while the nanny is a selfish idiot, this is just daft. Parking like a twat doesn't mean you'll neglect and ignore children in your care while you stare at the box.

I get how infuriating it has been for OP and I think she was quite right to take action (though I'm now wondering what the 'talking at' the nanny post-parking was like), but this kind of illogical conclusion is just ridiculous. She's a parking pig, not Freddy Krueger.

LilaBard · 13/06/2017 20:39

OP no skin off your shite if the stupid wanker nanny doesn't come back. I'd leave it now, they are clear on your position and the nanny has no one to blame but herself. Maybe the next one will know how to park.

Ps fuck 'em.